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大陸GDP到底應該是處在世界什麼樣的水平?

作者:tantianxing  於 2017-10-31 02:42 發表於 最熱鬧的華人社交網路--貝殼村

作者分類:北美來信|通用分類:政經軍事|已有56評論

關鍵詞:大陸, 經濟, GDP水平

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回復 tantianxing 2017-11-1 01:38
Good links! thanks!
回復 tantianxing 2017-11-1 01:41
vibes: 是不是GDP的一部分未經納稅者同意,都用在國家交通樞紐和城市的基礎建設了?
天朝是國富民窮,崛起的是趙家Money. 屁民喝點湯, no money!
回復 gushu 2017-11-1 12:04
lym2021: 城市人口指的是拿著城市戶口的人口。城市化就算你住在市中心,可依然是某某鄉的戶口,你依然是農村人口
現在只是談經濟問題。人在哪裡生活工作,就應該算哪裡的人。

你難道認為剝奪人民選擇居住地的權利是正確的?應該驅趕民工回農村?
回復 gushu 2017-11-1 12:06
lym2021: 在紐約待過7年的覺得紐約地鐵比中國地鐵安全得多。
以下記錄只是1990年以來紐約地鐵的事故的不完全記錄:

  08/03/2011 A 6 Train derailed in Harlem near the 125th Street station at 4:14 a.m. About 100 passengers were evacuated safely and there were no injuries.

  07/11/2011A Metro North train derailment in midtown Manhattan last month was both uncomfortable and potentially dangerous for passengers. The six car train on the Hudson Line was carrying hundreds of passengers during the evening rush hour on Monday, July 11, 2011.

  05/17/2011 At around 6:00 a.m, a work train came off the B tracks at Dekalb Avenue Station, putting the entire line out of commission and creating delays along several other lines.

  02/13/2009 Just after 1:00pm, a Coney Island bound "D" train derailed at the 81st Street/Museum of Natural History station on the IND 8th Avenue Line. An MTA official says that "approximately two cars were derailed" (WCBS-TV). Passengers were loaded onto another train that pulled up behind the derailed one. The rescue train took them to the West 125th Street/St. Nicholas Avenue station. The A and D trains were put into local service between 125th Street and 59th Street stations while C train was suspended along the entire length of its run. It is believed that 500 people were on board the IND train. According to a report from WABC-TV's website, a broken rail was reported at the station, but it is not known if that countributed to the accident. (Thanks to David Harris for the report.)

  05/04/2008 A Brooklyn bound "N" train derailed at the 57th Street/7th Avenue station on the BMT Broadway Subway. Passengers were evacuated from the derailed train with a rescue train. The passengers came to the surface at the 5th Avenue station. There were no serious injuries as a result of this accident. N service was suspended in both directions between Queensboro Plaza and Times Square, Bay Ridge bound R trains were re-routed via the "F" line between 36th Street (Queens) and Herald Square. A shuttle train was put into service between Queensboro Plaza and Ditmars Blvd. NYC Transit says the train's operator and motorman will receive blood alcohol testing. (Thanks to David Harris for the writeup.)

  11/06/2007 Bumper block overshoot at Chambers Street, 11/6/2007. As the R42 fleet is being prepared for scrapping, the four pairs of R42 cars were sent to the 207th St. yard scrap line instead of being repaired, even those with only relatively minor damage. Cars involved: 4624-4625, 4730-4731, 4786-4787, 4818-4819.

  04/29/2007 At 4:06PM on April 29th, 2007 two NYCTA track workers were struck by a Queens bound G train at the Hoyt-Schermerhorn Street station. One of them was killed by the train while the other was sent to Bellevue Hospital for treatment. His injuries were serious in nature. Service on the G train was suspended until 7:42PM that evening. Five days earlier (April 24th) at 11:20PM, a track worker was killed on the 7th Avenue IRT near the Columbus Circle station. He was struck by a 3 train while setting up flagging lanterns. With the exception of completing the work that was already in progress at the time of the incidents, track work was suspended. Work resumed on May 4th at 8:00AM. During the suspension, MoW workers were retrained on safety procedures.

  



  10/25/2000 Out of service train rear-ends another stationary out of service train on middle track of Jerome Ave (#4) line at Fordham Road. Lead car of rear train (#1370) head end damaged; second car of rear train (#1369) is completely wrecked, due to jackknife at center of car. No passenger injuries.

  06/21/2000 B train derails at DeKalb Ave. Brooklyn, around 10:00 pm. Approximately 70 people injured. First three cars of southbound train jumped the tracks south of DeKalb requiring approx. 70 feet of track to be replaced. Service was restored by 6:00 am the next morning.

  04/12/2000 A #5 train derails near 59th St. at end of rush hour. Thousands of riders are stranded in the disabled train for hours while a second train is sent to pick them up.

  



  02/03/1998 Accident on 239th Street Yard lead- collision between two trains. Cars involved 1391-1400; 8832-8833, 8912-8913, 8980-8981, 9152-9153, 9154-9155. No passenger injuries.

  



  11/20/1997 A Jamaica-bound R train rear-ends a G train in a tunnel near the Steinway Street station in Long Island City, Queens. There were no serious injuries were reported among the approximately 40 victims, who mainly suffered minor head and neck injuries. All of the injured were treated and released. The cars, which were estimated traveling at about 10 miles per hour at the time of the collision, suffered only limited damage.

  07/14/1997 A Flatbush Ave. bound #2 train derailed south of the Franklin Avenue Station at the point where the Nostrand Avenue Line branches off from the Eastern Parkway Line. Service was shut down on the #2 between Atlantic Avenue and Flatbush Avenue and on the #4 from Franklin Avenue to New Lots Avenue. Of the 120 people on the train, only three were injured. The consist was (s) 9203-2, 9087-6, 9073-2, 9052-3, 8885-4 (n). R-33 8884 was wedged into the wall and cut up on the spot. Its mate 8885 was converted to a work car.

  07/03/1997 At 10:20 pm a Queens-bound A train derails under St. Nicholas Avenue in Harlem, just north of the 135th Street Station as it is going over a switch. Mayor Giuliani reports: "It's an absolute miracle no one was killed or seriously injured. What I saw was unbelievable. The last car as smashed in half, just ripped apart." 15 people were injured and service on the A and D was terminated at 59th Street and C service suspended entirely. The Transit Authority was forced to run shuttle trains on the D from 205th to 161st Street in the Bronx, and on the A from 207th Street to 168th Street, in conjunction with shuttle bus service.

  



  11/24/1996 Derailment south of Hunts Point Avenue (Pelham line) on Track M. Car 1716 repaired and returned to service. 1909 was a total writeoff due to mid-carbody damage.

  08/13/1996 A Brooklyn-bound D train of R-68s derailed while it was pulling out of the DeKalb Avenue station in Brooklyn. There were no injuries among the 350 passengers. It has not been determined if track work in the area of the derailment caused the incident. This was the first derailment of 1996, and the seventh since 1991.

  08/22/1995 18 people were injured when a 6 train bypassed a red signal and struck another train stopped at Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall station, New York state investigators said.

  06/05/1995 Major collision on the Williamsburg Bridge. At about 6:12 am a Manhattan bound M train which had stopped near the Brooklyn tower of the bridge was hit from behind by a J train. The motorman of the J train, on his final run of an overnight shift, was killed and over 50 passengers were injured. The M train s consist was (s) 4622-3,4611-0,4587-6,4665-4 (n) . The J train s consist was (s) 4461-0, 4489-8, 4536-7, 4452-3 (n). The ends of cars 4461 (J train) and 4664 (M train) were demolished. Cars 4460, 4489-8 received moderate damage. Investigators conclude that the J train ran a red signal at high speed, and that the spacing of signals and poor performance of the trains brakes contributed to the crash.

  02/09/1995 An M train carring no passengers smashes into a Manhattan bound B train near the Ninth Ave. station in Brooklyn. The motorman and 6 people aboard the B train suffered minor injuries. Investigators blame the motorman of the M train, who intentionally "keyed by" a red light - a procedure that allows him to bypass it - before accelerating around a sharp curve and into the B train.

  12/21/1994 Edward Leary explodes homemade bomb that sent a fireball whooshing through a subway car, injuring himself and 47 others. The crude bomb went off while the subway train was parked in a station.

  09/28/1994 A work train rear-ended another work train on the IRT line at Graham Ave. in Brooklyn. Investigators determined that the motorman, who had worked 16 hours straight in violation of Transit Authority regulations, passed two stop signals.

  08/15/1994 11 people are injured when the last car of a southbound B train derails near Ninth Avenue in Sunset Park, Brooklyn, and slams into a tunnel wall. Someone in a control tower mistakenly activated a switch to send the train from the local to the express track, while the train was passing over it, and a mechanism designed to prevent that from happening failed.

  10/07/1993 At 5:20 AM a Manhattan bound L train collided with another L train in the Graham Avenue Station. The Manhattan bound train was composed of eight R-42's , (W) 4882-3, 4905-4, 4892-3, 4915-4. The train in the station was composed of eight slant R-40's (W)4427-6, 4431-0, 4437-6, 4416-7. 45 people are injured. Officials find that the motorman of the rear train intentionally "keyed by" a red signal.

  08/28/1991 Five people are killed and more than 200 injured when a southbound No. 4 train derails going over a switch just north of Union Square. Service on the Lexington Avenue IRT, was disrupted for six days as transit workers toiled around the clock to clean up the wreckage. The motorman, Robert Ray, who was drunk and going more than 40 mph where the speed limit was 10 mph, is later convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 15 years in prison. It was the worst subway accident in 63 years. (Photo courtesy New York City Transit)

  12/28/1990 Electrical fire in tunnel near Clark Street, Brooklyn kills two and injures 188.
回復 gushu 2017-11-1 12:09
lym2021:    人家有錢買大麻槍支,你有錢維穩抓維權人士,都一樣啊,算起來你花得更多
所謂的維權人士只不過是美國中情局養的狗而已。坐牢也每月發狗糧。
回復 西部華人 2017-11-1 12:30
皇帝說多少GDP就得是多少,定下指標任務,統計局長再去論證,論證不被皇帝接受就進秦城,所以統計局必須作假。
回復 隨意隨緣 2017-11-1 14:31
樓主,別的沒法評論,因為不掌握數據。只是這個你可以多說點嗎?出處在哪裡?
1、美國:2016年人均GDP是56875美元,年人均收入43460美元,年人均收入與占人均GDP的比率:76.64%。

根據GDP的定義,你的人均收入明顯太過於接近人均GDP了,這在正規的統計報告中是不可能出現的。
回復 gushu 2017-11-1 15:16
lym2021: 統計人口和經濟的時候就是根據戶口算城市和農村人口。不要打岔,你農村再城市化,都是農村人口,算收入不能按照城鎮。
不是寫的很清楚,常住人口嗎?非要扯什麼戶口乾嘛?
沒戶口就不是人了?

幾億農村戶口的人常住在城市,人均GDP當然要把這些人算進去。
他們創造出來的GDP,不算他們進去,這才是弄虛作假,偽造統計。
回復 gushu 2017-11-1 15:19
lym2021: http://www.bjnews.com.cn/inside/2016/03/31/398770.html
北京兩年39起墜軌事故。不比你的多?哈哈,這還只是公布的。多少未公布你敢說一定沒有?美國可不會遮
你的狡辯越來越蒼白了。
你自己找出來的帖子,北京的墜落31次中26次是自殺,跟地鐵安全不安全沒關係,想自殺跳樓也可以,跳海也可以。總不能說海不安全,樓不安全?
回復 gushu 2017-11-1 15:54
lym2021: 城鎮人均GDP就是按照戶籍來算啊,這是最基本的sense啊,總不能算一年就統計一次人口吧。
你覺得把幾億常年在城市打工的人算做農村人口統計出來的資料,有多大可信度?

把這些人從城鎮人口中剔除,算出來的人均GDP,就等於兩個人的工資算給一個人,
看起來收入很高,自己爽而已,毫無意義。

總不能算一年就統計一次人口吧。--------你以為統計人口現在還是戶籍警一家一家查戶口??常住人口就是在城市辦了暫住證,只要計算機按一下統計馬上就可以知道有多少人,別說每年統計,就是每分鐘統計都沒問題。
回復 gushu 2017-11-1 15:55
lym2021: 哈哈哈,你真是無恥到極點了,看都沒看也敢胡說八道?你看得懂英文嗎?這裡面說的是什麼情況?1990到2011,22年,一共才死了6個,大多數「事故」都是「carries n
調度出錯,就說明地鐵本身系統老化,容易出錯,或者是人員管理不當。
跟自殺兩碼事。
回復 吶喊丁丁 2017-11-1 23:45
中國GDP有水分是事實,但你以「個人收入」與GDP之比同歐美對比,進而得出「有假」的結論卻是不正確的。自從1990年以來,中國「個人收入」佔GDP的份額多在35-40%,政府支出和投資佔大頭。GDP是個人消費,政府支出和投資加上外貿凈出口。所以,從你用的比例和對比不能得出中國GDP不實的結論。
回復 tantianxing 2017-11-2 00:48
吶喊丁丁: 中國GDP有水分是事實,但你以「個人收入」與GDP之比同歐美對比,進而得出「有假」的結論卻是不正確的。自從1990年以來,中國「個人收入」佔GDP的份額多在35-40%
請搞清楚GDP的含意最好了。和百姓支出、政府支出無關。社會收入是可以充分體現GDP情況的,因為,社會上的所有產品和服務是靠給人付工資而獲得的產出。記住,社會所有服務與產品是靠給人付工資而產出的。沒有給人工資付出,社會上什麼東西也沒有的。社會總收入是可以低於GDP總量,但是不能低的太多。太多了就說明政府的稅費過高。這個稅費比例的體現就是政府國家資源(無論是政府管理資源還是材料土地資源)抽社會全體百姓收入的稅費比例。
回復 蘇誠忠 2017-11-4 17:05
我的一位親戚,在農村,每個月連三百元都拿不到,這是什麼人均GDP?
回復 媒體喉舌 2017-11-27 14:44
不是按照美國磚家,中國都崩潰幾十年了嗎?現在還每年預測中國崩潰,怎麼反倒趕上美國了?你們在這裡討論這些,是學美國媒體和磚家呢?
回復 老懞 2018-1-11 11:18
以GDP而GDP,這是很滑稽的。
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