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打狗棒 發表於 2011-1-16 08:41 | 只看該作者 回帖獎勵 |倒序瀏覽 |閱讀模式
  原文這裡就不翻譯了,大概意思都差不多,我主要翻譯的是下面的評論。

  vkkis (singaproe)

  7 hrs ago (08:15 PM)

  india has its own designed & Developed engine, which is bleeding this country with correcption and undevelopment. The Engine name is "GANDHI".

  印度有自己的研發部門,但是他們正在掏空國家,腐敗和無能是他們的特點。這些人的名字叫「甘地」

  ---看來對甘地有意見的人相當多啊

  Ashutosh Divecha (Nagpur Maharashtra)

  6 hrs ago (09:42 PM)

  For any new invention / experiment or R & D - one needs a workshop / factory with all facilities - but when one sets up a workshop or factory - then one has to FIRST have an encounter with - Octroi walla then VAT Officer then Industries Registration then Factory Act Registration then Pollution Board clearance then Fire NOC then Building permit Then electrical Inspector then Central Excise office then Service tax office then Proffession tax office then Labour Officer then Financial institutions After all the encounters the Inventor has lost all hopes to do something creative. One cannot put a factory just for new inventions and R&D specifically but that happens in the regular course of work, whereas sometimes it feels it is a crime to work honestly in this country. Government is interested only in Tax Revenue from Industry and not creativity Hey Ram.

  在印度,如果你想要發明/做實驗/做研究,你需要建立一個工廠。這樣你首先需要和Octroi walla(估計是印度的城管),然後VAT,然後是工業註冊部門,然後是工廠註冊部門,然後是環境管理局,然後是消防部門,然後是建設許可證,然後是電力檢測,然後是中央管理部門,然後是地方稅務部門,然後是國家稅務部門,然後是工會,然後是財務部。經過這樣一個過程后,任何人都是沒有創新的想法了。只為創新而建立的工廠是不允許的。很多時候在這個國家誠實的工作讓人覺得是犯罪。政府僅僅關心稅收,根本不關心創新。

  secret (US) replies to vkkis

  6 hrs ago (09:56 PM)

  I think it is imported from Italy.

  我認為這是從義大利引進的。

  Rapter (Washington)

  5 hrs ago (11:04 PM)

  Doing something on paper is much easier than making actual product - be it Amazon Kindle, Apple iPhone, Cisco 12k router, or moon orbiter, stealth fighter jet, or Boeing 777s... On paper, about 35 nations could have these, but in reality one very few could deliver these products. This is called manfacturing not call centers! A stealth jet need so many component that India can simply not produce. For China, it has its own indigenous jet engine (meaning they own all the design), but it still has trouble with the craftmanship of producing a durable engine. Think about this, Lexus or BMW are widely available, but how many countries could emulate them into production ? No, Tata Nano is not innovation.

  紙上談兵比真正的作出東西來容易多了,比如Amazon Kindle, IPHONE, 思科路由器,登月衛星,隱形戰機,波音777等等。有35個國家曾經在紙面上提出來類似技術水平的設計。但是實際上只有少數的幾個國家能生產這樣的東西。(看來此人對三個的PPT功力很不滿啊)這就是製造業的威力,電話服務中心不會能製造任何東西。一架隱形戰機需要很多的零件,大部分的零件印度都不能生產。對於中國,他們擁有自己的設計的發動機,儘管發動機的耐用性還有問題。這樣想,凌志和寶馬車到處都能買到,但是有幾個國家真正的能仿造出來呢,不,塔塔的納米車根本不是創新。

  ---這人是個明白人

  sahajpal (delhi) replies to Rapter

  3 hrs ago (12:26 AM)

  This so called stealth fighter is nothing but a large version of J 10 with angles and painted it black you call it innovation As per experts is the armament and radar are not stealhy at all.china has been known to steal most of the technology from west. several chinese spies have been arrested for stealing various tehnologies ,there is nothing innovatve, its the same as manufaturing products from prefabficated moulds provided by walmart and labeling it made in china.Like the J10 was a copy of israeli AL lavi And the engine is Russian AL31fn turbofan This all stolen or borrowed technology.

  所謂的隱形戰機根本就是一個放大版本的J10,然後塗上黑漆。這樣就拉出來說是創新而且它根本就不隱形。中國在偷取西方技術的上是臭名昭著的。很多的中國間諜都因為這個被抓起來了。這根本就不是創新。這就像是根據Walmart提供的圖紙生產產品然後標上「中國製造」一樣。J10簡直就是一以色列戰機的翻版,發動機還是用的俄羅斯的AL31fn渦扇。他們全是偷竊或者「借取」的技術。

  ---此人典型的印度人想法

  Rapter replies to sahajpal

  2 hrs ago (01:55 AM)

  And India can make all these ? Where do you buy a DSL modem in India today ?! or any cell phones ? Talk about India being the most innovative nation on earth, at lease make something even by copying.

  另外印度製造了所有的零部件么?在印度,你在哪裡買上網用的貓呢?或者手機。印度想成為最具有創新性的國家,先翻版一些東西再說。

  sahajpal replies to Rapter

  1 hr ago (02:33 AM)

  chinese are dumping the imitated garbage all over the world.India is a resilient country with transparency compared to china.Our biggest handicap is the goverance .We have enough talent to compete and excel given the right envoirment.India is rapidly developing its infrastructure, soon those prefabricated moulds will shift from china to india. currently chinese per capitais $300/mo to india,s $ 100/mo so it will be cheaper to manufacture goods in India than china

  中國正在向全世界傾銷他們的垃圾。印度是一個有毅力的國家。跟中國比,我們的政府更加透明。我們最大的問題是政府執行力。我們有足夠的人力資源來達到世界的巔峰,如果各種條件都配合的話。印度的基礎設施正在飛速發展。很快所有的那些預測模型就要從中國轉移到印度了。現在中國的人均GDP是300/mo,而印度是100/mo。所以在印度生產東西會比在中國便宜。

  ---將來是印度的,過去是韓國的

  RAPTER replies to sahajpal

  48 mins ago (03:16 AM)

  sahajpal - China and the world certainly hope India is full of talents like you. BTW, do you work as part of the government you mentioned ?

  sahajpal--中國和世界人民衷心的希望印度人都像你一樣。另外,你是不是也是給政府工作的。

  ---五毛到處都有啊

  Badabing (USA) replies to sahajpal

  37 mins ago (03:27 AM)

  Sahajpal, okay India's biggest hindrance is the lack of capable governance, per cap is way lower than China. You are leaving out skilled and willful labor force; super productive on the line resources. Indian labor productivity is not all that. Just because labor is cheaper does not mean it's a true competitive edge. You pride yourself on transparency? Even if it is really transparent you wouldn't like what you'll see. You wish you have the imitated garbage to dump off to the rest of the World; it's called market segmentation. You can cowl inside your cellophane hut and stroke yourself to delirium but it won't change the fact that as the World's Largest Democracy, India continues to put Nehru and Gandhi clan members into office to continue the agony. Will of the people you say? Or a general lack of the sense of calling? I bet you if you put the Chinese work force under Indian governance, it'll still out perform your current one; there might even be a brand new government in place afterwards too.

  樓上的哥們,印度的最大問題確實是確實執行力,人均國民生產總值比中國低的多。你沒有考慮勞動力量的差別。中國有勤勞的經過良好培訓的勞動力量,他們在生產線上效率特別高。印度人差遠了。印度工資便宜並不代表最終產品便宜。你以印度的透明度自豪?如果真的是透明的,那你也會不喜歡的。你希望中國不傾銷垃圾商品?這叫市場競爭力。你可以鑽入自己的小世界,不管外面。但是你不能否認這個事實:最為實際上最大的民主國家,印度的尼赫魯和甘地家族一直把持著政治。人民的工作的意願, 我打賭如果讓印度政府來管理中國人民,他們依然會比現在的印度人民好多了。更不用說,現在的印度政府在中國早被推翻了。

  ---這哥們其實就是在變相的罵印度人懶么,哈哈

  RAPTER replies to sahajpal

  31 mins ago (03:33 AM)

  I guess India didn't deliberately fail its geo-sync saterlite lunch last month. It HAD trouble making it work, right ?! Even as the rocket uses Russian made 3rd stage booster, India didn't copy the Russian 1st stage design correctly to reach the 3rd stage, LOL.

  我想印度沒有故意的讓上個月的火箭發射失敗的吧。火箭確實有問題,對吧。儘管第三級火箭使用了俄羅斯的發動機,但是印度沒有成功的拷貝俄羅斯第一級火箭發動機的設計,所以根本沒有達到第三級。大笑。

  ---這臉打的,piapia的

  sahajpal replies to Badabing

  12 mins ago (03:52 AM)

  I am glad you chinese are venting your frustation in the Indian media. if you do it in china they will hang you. welcome to freedom.

  很高興中國派你來印度的媒體上發牢騷。你如果在中國這麼做,你會被絞死的。歡迎來到自由的印度。

  ---這哥們真不知道有老將,JY這種生物存在啊

  sahajpal replies to RAPTER

  31 mins ago (04:51 AM)

  If Iwere working for the govt. I wont be critical of it you genius. Like i said India is a transparent country all the information is out there good or bad. unlike in china where only good news is filtered out.

  如果我是為政府工作的,我應該批評你的評論。就像我說的,印度的政府是透明的,我們知道印度的一切消息,不像中國只有好消息才能發表。

  Rapter replies to sahajpal

  9 mins ago (05:13 AM)

  At least it seems you genius knows plenty of bad news about China, and you think India's sky is brighte.

  至少你看起來像是真的知道中國的很多壞消息,並且認為印度的天空更藍一些。

來源:米爾論壇 2011-01-14
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