也許這個話題有點過分了，如何看待網上流傳的唐崇榮醜聞？

信要親身經歷嗎?你要下封口令是你的權,人說得道多助,失道寡助,原來你這兒是要親身經歷才可發言.你何時有這條 ...
拎不清 發表於 9-6-2010 16:46

我已經說過，你願意繼續我行我素是你自己的選擇。什麼該信什麼不該信，是任何一個成年人自己的決定，當然也需要自己負責任。網路只是現實生活的一個折射。

再說一遍，你自己信什麼是你的做人原則決定，在這裡發言要受版規限制。

永生版主，來往加國的泰國和尚版聖經是傳謠，你看怎麼辦呢？

跟你說過無數次了，所有的教義，包括三位一體，都是教會根據聖經總結出來的。你就是不聽，而且不論什麼 ...
追求永生 發表於 2010-6-10 02:20

什麼叫「總結」出來的？這就是問題的核心。聖經裡面沒有，教會卻人為的「總結」出來一個聖經里沒有的東西，你說，這算什麼呢？如果聖經是神的話，神沒說，人卻添加，總結出來，你說算什麼？說你用謊言冤枉你嗎？

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    Is honourary doctorate degree the same kind of a fradulent doctorate degree purchased from a non-existent college

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Guest from 99.227.40.x 發表於 10-6-2010 08:17

I think that is totally different. He had two honored doctorate degrees. Only first one is in the issue. The second one has no problem.

什麼叫「總結」出來的？這就是問題的核心。聖經裡面沒有，教會卻人為的「總結」出來一個聖經里沒有的東西 ...
·八戒· 發表於 10-6-2010 07:06

你根本就不知道只有教會才有權利這樣做。聖經是神賜給教會的屬靈財產。八戒兄的基礎知識差的太多了，又不謙虛，而且喜歡在自己不清楚的領域論斷。

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    You are right, but those honorary degrees he got were just very recently, he had been using a title that was not there for ages.

永生版主，來往加國的泰國和尚版聖經是傳謠，你看怎麼辦呢？
Guest from 72.230.112.x 發表於 10-6-2010 06:56

你如果確有證據，可以在那個轉貼里直接貼出來。建議如果是部分說法失實，不要把整個貼文說成是謠言。

Honesty is the point I wanna make, and it is against the teachings of Jesus.

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Guest from 99.227.40.x 發表於 10-6-2010 10:13

That is related to the first one. For the first one, I cannot find out the grantor. It may be out of existence. However, even if it is out of existence, we cannot conclude it did not exist in the past. That is why I said it is in the issue. Even for this one, we cannot say it is fraudulent, unless we have possitive evidence verifying it. I don't believe we can do that kind of work.

I was shocked as well when knowing this incident may have occurred to such a great evangelist in the recent time when I heard that in the first time. But again, standing from a more positive angle, do you think the exposure of his fishy business is the will of God that ensures people do not bow over an artificial figure especially those seen to be standing up there representing a God message? This is a good lesson for every Christian to learn and if you can get over it and see it through, there is a boost to your faith and confidence.

Honesty is the point I wanna make, and it is against the teachings of Jesus.
Guest from 99.227.40.x 發表於 10-6-2010 10:20

I agree with it. However, we cannot conclude that anyone is dishonest in personality because he is not faultless.

一個小偷被人抓住了，她是否可以因為她的包里的東西有些是偷來的另一些是買來的，就說明她不是小偷呢？ ...
Guest from 72.230.112.x 發表於 10-6-2010 10:26

你這純粹是胡說八道。你自己認為是醜聞就給人定性了？我要的就是你所謂的醜聞的證據。在有證據之前，不要亂說。如果你的判斷標準就是網路上的傳言，那是你自己的事情。正常人的都知道，這些傳言比那些不入流的八卦小報的可信度都差的甚遠。

I was shocked as well when knowing this incident may have occurred to such a great evangelist in the ...
Guest from 99.227.40.x 發表於 10-6-2010 10:24

萬事共同效力，即使邪惡的事情，也包括在內。但是，別忘了，惡有惡報，邪惡的人逃不脫神的懲罰。

所以人要按自己的本分行事，任何人任何時候都是最基本的做人原則。

唐牧師是神的僕人，必定是撒但攻擊的重點對象，他是否能站的穩是他自己的事情；我們不站在撒但攻擊的一邊是我們的責任。

至於這個版的管理，在這件事上，只是要求按常理行事而已。

Feeling a sense to defend someone that one unconsciously identifies to be truth is a kind of idolatry.

你難道沒有看到你的這句話正好適用在唐牧師的這個事情上嗎？為什麼唐牧師的醜聞是傳謠而泰國和尚卻不是 ...
Guest from 72.230.112.x 發表於 10-6-2010 10:29

如果你的問題目的就在這裡，我可以正式回答你，這是兩個不同的事情。具體如何不同，你自己考慮去。如果實在想不通，你把你的想法貼上來，我給你解釋。

Truth will prevail, but if the evidence is super-clear there is an honesty question, we will have to side to the Truth, or else there is a possibility of this twisted proclamation a play of Satanists.