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以下是安德魯的原話：
原帖由 andrewjag 於 2008-1-26 16:40 發表
那你最好連視窗軟體都別用了。因為 比爾蓋茨是信仰上帝的！
某些基督徒們為了掩飾基督教的錯誤和漏洞百出，喜歡舉一些名人信基督教的例子，企圖抬高基督教的地位。他們為了達到自己的卑劣目的，不惜捏造事實，有些謊言低劣到弱智也能一眼看穿的地步。他們先是說進化論的締造者達爾文是基督徒，被戳穿后，又有人說居里夫人是基督徒。甚至有基督徒弱智到說猶太人愛因斯坦也是基督徒！
長江後浪推前浪，今天又有基督徒安德魯同學推出「比爾蓋茨是信仰上帝的基督徒「的這樣一幕鬧劇！讓我們看看事實到底如何：
在一次採訪中比爾蓋茨是這樣回答他的信仰問題的：
「就做事來說，我用一個很科學的態度看待世間萬物。我不知道上帝是否存在。」 「我不相信耶穌的登山寶訓(Sermon on the Mount)，我不是那種經常去教堂的人。基督教的某些東西我個人不是很相信。」
當蓋茨被問到自己是否相信上帝時這樣說，
「就做事來說，我用一個很科學的態度看待世間萬物。我不知道上帝是否存在。」
以下是英文報道原文：
In a November 1995 interview of Gates by David Frost, this exchange took place:
Frost: Do you believe in the Sermon on the Mount?
Gates: I don』t. I』m not somebody who goes to church on a regular basis. The specific elements of Christianity are not something I』m a huge believer in. There』s a lot of merit in the moral aspects of religion. I think it can have a very, very positive impact.
Frost: I sometimes say to people, do you believe there is a god, or do you know there is a god? And, you』d say you don』t know?
Gates: In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don』t know if there』s a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid.
On January 13, 1996, in a 「Time」 magazine profile of Gates by Walter Isaacson, there was this exchange:
Isaacson: Isn』t there something special, perhaps even divine, about the human soul?
Gates: I don』t have any evidence on that.
而且比爾蓋茨對於同性戀僱員的友好和對同性婚姻的支持態度是世人皆知的，微軟為員工提供體檢、醫療費用報銷等保健福利，受益人還包括員工異性配偶或同性家庭夥伴以及子女。他的微軟合伙人之一Weiland是一名保守基督徒仇恨的同性戀者，也是比爾的好友。以下是相關報道：
」據國外媒體報道，美國最大的同性戀網站Gay.com的母公司PlanetOut發布消息說，該公司已獲得微軟公司的董事長比爾-蓋茨2620萬美元的風險投資。「
」在美國，在私營企業中，沒有防止僱員因為性取向受到就業歧視的聯邦法律。但是，目前大多數美國的跨國大公司（例如IBM、微軟、福特汽車、可口可樂、波音、迪士尼、AOL等），都制定了公司內部的基於性傾向的反歧視政策，適用於公司內部的就業、福利、升職、工作環境和公司文化、公司決策等各方面。「
「美國當地時間5月6日(北京時間05年5月7日)消息，據國外媒體報道，針對來自外界的各種指責，微軟CEO史蒂夫-巴爾默(Steve Ballmer)周五在一封寫給員工的電子郵件中表示，公司管理層今後將公開同性戀權益法案。」
此外蓋茨夫婦多次資助支持墮胎的科研組織，為此受盡氣急敗壞的基督徒的謾罵和侮辱。以下是一個基督教組織對於贊成墮胎的蓋茨基金會的無恥攻擊：
」Bill Gates Funding Of Abortion Reveals Him To Be Liar When He Says 「All Lives」 Have 「Equal Value」「
」BILL, MELINDA Gates love children – except those murdered in the womb by abortion whose innocent lives they, obviously, do not 『value.』「
請問各位保守基督徒朋友，你們覺得一位親口說不知道上帝是否存在，並且支持同性婚姻和墮胎的人會是真正的基督徒嗎？如果不是，你們為什麼一而再，再而三的公開撒謊？是否真的說明基督徒的可信度低於正常人群？
希望在座的基督徒們以後在辯論中學會用腦袋思考，學會正確地引用數據，而不是拍拍腦袋發高燒說胡話。多學習點歷史文化常識，如果你們除了學習耶經以外多念點書，稍微有點常識知道愛因斯坦出生於猶太家庭的話，就不會說出」愛因斯坦是基督徒「這種低級的謊話而丟人現眼了。
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以下是幾篇相關報道的原文
Warren Buffett 「Agnostic,」 Bill Gates Rejects Sermon On The Mount, Not 「Huge Believer」 In 「Specific Elements」 Of Christianity
http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=649
In his interview with Charlie Rose on Public TV, Bill Gates has said he is 「doubly blessed」 to have worked at Microsoft and now at his Foundation. But, 「doubly blessed」 by whom? By what? What is the religion of Bill Gates? What is the religion of Warren Buffett?
Well, in a succinct email to me, Debbie Bosanek, Assistant to Warren Buffett, says: 「Mr. Buffett is agnostic.」
And Bill Gates? In a November 1995 interview of Gates by David Frost, this exchange took place:
Frost: Do you believe in the Sermon on the Mount?
Gates: I don』t. I』m not somebody who goes to church on a regular basis. The specific elements of Christianity are not something I』m a huge believer in. There』s a lot of merit in the moral aspects of religion. I think it can have a very, very positive impact.
Frost: I sometimes say to people, do you believe there is a god, or do you know there is a god? And, you』d say you don』t know?
Gates: In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don』t know if there』s a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid.
On January 13, 1996, in a 「Time」 magazine profile of Gates by Walter Isaacson, there was this exchange:
Isaacson: Isn』t there something special, perhaps even divine, about the human soul?
Gates: I don』t have any evidence on that.
Isaacson wrote: 「Gates face suddenly becomes expressionless, his squeaky voice turns toneless, and he folds his arms across his belly and vigorously rocks back and forth in a mannerism that has become so mimicked at Microsoft that a meeting there can resemble a round table of ecstatic rabbis.」
Isaacson also quotes Gates as saying: 「Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There』s a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning.」 – J.L.
Bill Gates Funding Of Abortion Reveals Him To Be Liar When He Says 「All Lives」 Have 「Equal Value」
http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=648
By John Lofton, Editor
「All lives—no matter where they are being led—have equal value.」 — From the 「Our Values」 section of the Web page of the Bill And Melinda Gates Foundation.
「All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.」 — From George Orwell』s 「Animal Farm.」
The national news media would have us believe that Warren Buffett giving $31 billion to the Bill And Melinda Gates Foundation means the dawning of a new day — saving the lives of millions of people. On ABC』s 「Nightline,」 an ecstatic reporter, Dan Harris, has said about Buffett』s donation: 「It was a grand, historic gesture. One that will put these three individuals in a position to change and, in many cases, save the lives of tens of millions of people.」
On his Public TV show, interviewing Mr. and Mrs. Gates and Buffett, Charlie Rose said: 「Think of the consequences for those who are poor, sick and uneducated. It means Bill and Melinda and Warren can make even more real a guiding principle that all lives are equal.」
Bill Gates himself told Rose: 「It』s not really fair that we could save lives for a few hundred dollars in many countries, and yet we don』t.」And Melinda Gates said that in certain states in India and Bangladesh, if a particular unnamed drug could be perfected, 「we could save a lot of lives」 among the approximately 200,000 people who have kalaazar, visceral leishmaniasis.
At one point Rose asks: 「Do you have any idea how many lives the work of the Gates Foundation has saved? What do people tell you about children that are alive today that might not have been otherwise?」
Melinda Gates: 「When you look at the vaccines that are out there, we know — we think we know that 1.7 million lives have been saved just by children getting the basic vaccines that we take for granted in our country…. Those are all things that we』re getting in the hands of children. So you can measure it in that way. And they estimate over [a 10-year-period] I think that we』ll save about 10 million children』s lives via those vaccines.」
Rose: 「Ten million.」
Melinda Gates: 「Yes.」
Rose: 「That says it all, doesn』t it?」A little later, Rose asks Bill Gates if, when he was just a 「software guy,」 did he ever imagine he could 「save lives?」 Gates says well, no, that it』s 「thrilling」 that he can now save lives and 「I』m doubly blessed to have had the work at Microsoft and now this foundation work.」
In a statement responding to Buffett』s $31 billion gift, Bill Gates has said, in part: 「The impact of Warren』s generosity will not be fully understood for decades. As we move forward with the work, we do so with a profound sense of responsibility. Working with Warren and with our partners around the world, we have a tremendous opportunity to make a positive difference in people』s lives.」
In another statement on the Web page of the Bill And Melinda Gates Foundation it is said, again, about the Foundation, that it is 「guided by the belief that every life has equal value」 and that the Foundation 「works to reduce inequities and improve lives around the world.」 There is also a color photo of Bill and Melinda somewhere in Africa. The caption reads, in part: 「Bill and Melinda Gates believe every life has equal value.」
In a press conference announcing the $31 billion Buffett gift, Melinda Gates said: 「We look very much at what diseases have the greatest impact on lives. Where can you save the most lives.」 Buffett, referring to a foundation of his named after his wife, the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation, says its results have been 「terrific in terms of improving the lives of people around the world.」
OK, got it?
What Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett are about — as they and most of the national media tell it — is saving lives, improving lives. I mean, re-read that quote from the Gates Foundation Web page about their 「values.」 They believe: 「All lives—no matter where they are being led—have equal value.」 This is a clear, unqualified, categorical statement. And 「all lives」 means — well, all lives, right? And 「no matter where」 these lives are being led would have to include innocent, unborn humans who live in the womb, correct?
Well, no, wrong!
Over the years, Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett have given tens of millions of dollars to various groups that perform abortions, push for and/or proselytize for abortion abroad and here in America. For details you can visit the Web pages of the American Life League, the Population Research Institute and Human Life International.
On May 9, 2003, Bill Moyers had an in-depth discussion with Bill Gates on Public TV. During the course of the show Gates had the following comments related to Planned Parenthood.
Moyers: But did you come to reproductive issues as an intellectual, philosophical pursuit? Or was there something that happened? Did come upon… was there a revelation?
Gates: When I was growing up, my parents were almost involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it』s fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that. My mom was on the United Way group that decides how to allocate the money and looks at all the different charities and makes the very hard decisions about where that pool of funds is going to go. So I always knew there was something about really educating people and giving them choices in terms of family size.
When I put the word 「abortion」 into the search engine on the Web page of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, it turned up two references, one of which I could not get. The reference I could get was to an April, 2000, $8 Million Grant to 「Family Care International」 to 「Improve Women』s Health.」 It says that among the things 「FCI」 is addressing around the world is 「unsafe abortion.」 Unsafe abortion?! That』s right. 「FCI」 is trying to make abortion 「safe.」 But 「safe」 for whom? Certainly not the unborn baby who is murdered by abortion.
In a press conference announcing Buffett』s $31 billion gift to his Foundation, Bill Gates said it was 「almost scary」 to get so much money from somebody else because 「if I make a mistake with my own money, it just doesn』t feel the same as to make a mistake with Warren』s money.」 But, what』s really scary is that these billionaires see nothing wrong with murdering innocent, unborn children by abortion.
蓋茨2620萬美元投資美最大的同性戀網站
http://www.admin5.com/article/20070705/48024.shtml
北京時間7月4日消息，據國外媒體報道，美國最大的同性戀網站Gay.com的母公司PlanetOut發布消息說，該公司已獲得微軟公司的董事長比爾-蓋茨2620萬美元的風險投資。
該報道稱，在參與投資PlanetOut的機構名單中，卡斯凱德投資公司（Cascade）赫然在列。而卡斯凱德投資公司的擁有者正是微軟公司的董事長比爾-蓋茨。
PlanetOut擁有Gay.com等面向同性戀者的資訊與服務網站，並收購了多家面向同性戀者的媒體。2004年10月，PlanetOut在美國納斯達克上市交易，是美國第一家在主要股票市場上市的面向同性戀者的公司。
卡斯凱德公司的總部位於美國華盛頓州柯克蘭市一幢並不起眼的小樓里，離微軟在西雅圖市東北的總部並不太遠。
據5月15日卡斯凱德向美國證交會（SEC）提交的13F信息披露文件稱，截至今年3月31日，該公司持有在紐約證交所和納斯達克上市的11隻股票，總市值近37億美元。去年6月30日，該公司公布的股票投資組合市值約34億美元，在不到一年的時間裡，該投資組合已經增長8.82%。
微軟改變立場 稱將公開支持同性戀權益法案
http://tech.sina.com.cn/it/2005-05-07/0812600156.shtml
新浪科技訊 美國當地時間5月6日(北京時間5月7日)消息，據國外媒體報道，針對來自外界的各種指責，微軟CEO史蒂夫-巴爾默(Steve Ballmer)周五在一封寫給員工的電子郵件中表示，公司管理層今後將公開同性戀權益法案。
兩周前，美國一些同性戀組織及支持者稱，迫於外界壓力，微軟放棄了支持同性戀和少數派權益的立場。此前有報道稱，Antioch Bible教堂牧師肯-哈奇森(Ken Hutcherson)曾同微軟高層舉行了會談，並威脅稱，如果微軟不反對同性戀權益法案，他將號召全國教友抵制微軟產品。巴爾默在周五的電子郵件中表示：「在考慮到各方面因素之後，我已經認識到，保持員工組成多樣性是一件很重要的事情，這樣才能有利於我們的市場發展。」
今年初，美國眾議院曾以61票贊成、37票反對，批准了一項旨在反對在居住、招聘以及保險等多個領域歧視同性戀的法案。4月21日，美國參議院對這項法案進行了否決。針對微軟此前的中立態度，「洛杉磯同性戀中心」負責人羅莉-吉恩 (Lorri L. Jean)4月底表示，微軟應返還該組織四年前頒發給該公司的人權獎。但吉恩周五表示，鑒於微軟目前已經改變了態度，因而它今後仍可繼續保留該榮譽。
美國最大的同性戀組織「人權運動(Human Rights Campaign)」會長喬-索爾蒙尼斯(Joe Solmonese)表示，對微軟改變態度表示讚賞。索爾蒙尼斯說：「我們很高興微軟做出了正確決定，只有這樣，才能體現微軟對每位員工權益採取了一視同仁的態度。」
巴爾默在周五的電子郵件中還表示，微軟今後將加大對美國政府的遊說力度，要求布希政府在網際網路安全、知識產權保護、自由貿易及創造良好商務環境等問題上制定更有效措施。(明月）
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