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再請教個問題:為什麼「神」對不信基督教的人那麼心狠手辣?

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cdzy777 發表於 2010-10-6 02:43 | 只看該作者
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頂!! 都是教友自願的。
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匿名  發表於 2010-10-6 10:48
是不是很極端呢。
說人家去廟裡捐香油錢,是給魔鬼。
給那些性侵犯的牧師神父是神聖的。。
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匿名  發表於 2010-10-30 21:42
不信則有罪, 得死。 還不能問問為嘛。 亞當有了和夏娃相好的念頭, 人類就得的受苦受難。弄個兒子來作犧牲, 美其名曰, 大慈悲。真有本事, 讓大夥天天高高興興不好嗎。 爹媽要生我,我管得著嗎。我咋就生來有罪呢。 亞當沒這個想法, 你能在這啰嗦嗎?
如真有這麼個玩意兒, 不理他為好。

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研究 發表於 2010-10-31 13:21 | 只看該作者
不信則有罪, 得死。 還不能問問為嘛。 亞當有了和夏娃相好的念頭, 人類就得的受苦受難。弄個兒子來作犧牲 ...
Guest from 174.117.155.x 發表於 2010-10-30 21:42

信還是不信,都是罪人,只不過信的人的罪被神免了。
藍天, 白雲, 海鷗
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人間的盒子 發表於 2010-11-1 11:27 | 只看該作者
基督徒再怎麼做盡壞事都會上天堂,
非基督徒再怎麼善良,做好事也得下「地獄」。
simons 發表於 2010-9-25 02:39


首先你這說法只是聖經講的,並沒有證據,沒有人去過天堂或地獄回來講過。

其次,我個人理解,聖經的話只是比喻。人死了就死了,不願意接受這殘酷無奈的事實而去研究死後如何本來就是浪費生命,當然也是loser們的自我安慰。聖經本意是讓人們認罪悔改好好生活。
我那麼好的簽名什麼時候沒了,氣我。
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ruthrose 發表於 2010-11-1 18:52 | 只看該作者
本帖最後由 ruthrose 於 2010-11-1 19:35 編輯
基督徒再怎麼做盡壞事都會上天堂,
非基督徒再怎麼善良,做好事也得下「地獄」。
simons 發表於 2010-9-25 02:39

你這是以訛傳訛啊,聖經哪章哪節這麼講過?

誰做壞事都必須接受審判,按照命定,人人都有一死,死後且有審判,不會因為是不是基督徒而有例外。

聖經的羅馬書2章告訴我們,神審判人的原則:
     1. 照真理審判 (1~4 節 )
     2. 按公義審判 (5~11 節 )
     3. 按律法審判 (12~13 節 )
     4. 按人心裡律法的功用審判 (14~15 節 )
     5. 按人對耶穌基督的態度審判 (16 節 )


所以,對於那些沒有聽見過福音的人,神會按他們的良心來審判他們 (看他們所行的跟他們所知道的是否相稱,知言行是否一致),而聽了福音,卻硬著心腸不肯承認,正如十字架上那個死到臨頭還要譏笑耶穌的強盜,即使按照良心來審判,他配與主同在樂園嗎?

聖經的使徒行傳10章34-35節也告訴我們:「神是不偏待人的。原來各國中,那敬畏主行義的人,都為主所悅納」。你放心,神不偏待人,如果這世上真的有敬畏天地,行公義的好人,主必然會喜悅他。

如果你所說的「非基督徒」是出於沒有聽過福音的緣故,那麼,按照聖經的羅馬書2章告訴我們的,神會按他們的知言行來審判他們 (看他們所行的跟他們所知道的是否相稱)。
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匿名  發表於 2010-11-3 22:46
God will judge humans and everything in this universe not because humans curse Him, rather because people did not believe into Him. In the very beginning, God created Adam and then Eve. God's creation was perfect and beautiful. The only thing God did not put into Adam and Eve was His divine life, which is represented by the fruit from the tree of life in the Garden of Eden. God created man, but did not force him to take what God want. Instead He gave man a free will to choose. Because Adam and Eve fell by eating the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which represent Satan, they fell and sined against God. For this reason, man's fate was hell, the lake of eternal fire. Our God is a fair God. He pays us everything we earn. For the sin man committed, the payback is death. As said in Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. " But God does not want people to die and be cast into the lake of eternal fire. He wants people to live, to do what He created us to do, that is to represent Him and express Him in this universe. Therefore, He is determined to save the fallen human race. All the Bible talkes about God's salvation. Eventually, He came down to this earth, and lived a human life for 33 and 1/2 years. Then He died on the cross to pay the debt we own God. After that, he ascended to the heavens and came down again as the Holy Spirit. After all these process, He put Himself in front of us again as the tree of life and wants us to eat Him. When we believe INTO him (not just believe, devils also believe there is God, but this objective belief can not save any of us. We have to accept Him, take Him into us so that He will become our life and our nature.) we have His life in us. This life is the divine life. Only the Greek word can express the meaning of this word. The Greek word for the eternal life is "ZOE". The divine life is not just a life that lasts forever. It has three attributes: 1. It is uncreated. All our lifes are created life. The Creator is God Himself. But the divine life which comes from God is not created. 2. It is indestuctible. Nothing in this universe can destruct this divine life, even death itself. All the created life eventaully will end and be captured by death, but this divine life has the power of resurrection, which defeats death. 3. This divine life is uncorruptible. The created life will corrupt from inside. When we are sick or we are too old, life will end. But this divine life will never end, and will never corrupt.
   To answer your question "Why the unbelieves will be punished", I just want to say that the punishment was not prepared for humans, but for Santan and his followers. Since humans sinned against God, death came into humans. This death does not mean the endo our natural life, but the eternal death, which means being cast into the lake of eternal fire. People receive this punishment because of the sin in them. If you do not want to ending, the only way is to turn to the Lord Juesus Himself. He came to this earth just to save us. To be saved, you need to accept Him as your life and live by Him. You need to be reborn of water (which means baptism) and the Spirit (which means accepting God as your life). There is no other way. By standing there complaning does not get you anywhere.  God gave us a free will to choose. If you do not choose God, why do you expect to be in Him kingdom? It is very simple to be saved. Here are some related verses from the Bible. My dear friends, may God grant you the widsom of being saved.
羅馬書 第 十 章
10:9 就是你若1口裡認耶穌為主,心裡信神叫祂從死人中2復活,就必得救;
10:10 因為人1心裡信,2就得著義;1口裡承認,2就得救。
10:11 因為經上說,「凡信靠祂的,必不至於羞愧。」
10:12 因為猶太人和希利尼人並沒有分別,眾人同有一位主,祂對一切呼求祂的人是1豐富的。
10:13 因為「凡1呼求主名的,就必2得救。」

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追求永生 發表於 2010-11-4 12:26 | 只看該作者
首先你這說法只是聖經講的,並沒有證據,沒有人去過天堂或地獄回來講過。

其次,我個人理解,聖經的 ...
人間的盒子 發表於 31-10-2010 22:27


盒子好,好久不見,一向都好吧?

我想有兩條需要澄清一下。

第一,聖經從來沒有說基督徒可以做違反神的旨意的壞事而不受懲罰不影響得救的。

第二,聖經都是神的啟示,是神的話語,不是寓言。即使耶穌講的寓言,也是用地上的事物教導天國的真理,和一般理解的寓言有本質的不同。
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追求永生 發表於 2010-11-4 12:29 | 只看該作者
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謝謝弟兄,後面聖經中的數字是怎麼回事呀?

如果沒有註釋,建議弟兄把這些不屬於聖經的內容去掉。
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拎不清 發表於 2010-11-13 07:52 | 只看該作者
又要在死字上繞圈子了.有一個牧師說:人人都是死人.亞當什麼時候死了?神無所不在,地獄存在,神也就在地獄中.哪個在地獄中,就和神同在.他就永生,就在天堂.
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