神正在富士康動工，透過兩位牧師~ （ZT）

回復 15# Guest from 72.230.112.x
When I say souls to be saved, I mean those who want to be saved. There is a choice all the time. If you think you need to be saved, then you are those mentioned. If you think there is no need for you to be saved, so, this does not applies to you. We pray for those who want to be saved and who want to have faith in their life.

When we pray for souls to be saved, we also mean praying for those top management team including Guo. I don't think there is any conflicting here. The truth is, if you are critical by nature, you criticize all the time.

There is no need to argue who is better than whom as long as you think you are happy where you are.

回復 16# 一說實相


    把富士康的員工自殺問題歸結到信仰問題甚至更歸結到員工們沒有信耶穌靈魂沒有得救，那麼不管說的怎麼委婉，立足點就不能被大眾接受了。

the article does not say so.

There are many ways to improve the situation including better life and better counselling service. These do not conflict. We are only doing our part. We didn't say that all the other methods are ineffective.

回復 16# 一說實相


    把富士康的員工自殺問題歸結到信仰問題甚至更歸結到員工們沒有信耶穌靈魂沒有得救，那麼不管說的怎麼委婉，立足點就不能被大眾接受了。

the article does not say so.

There are many ways to improve the situation including better life and better counselling service. These do not conflict. We are only doing our part. We didn't say that all the other methods are ineffective.

回復 19# 追求永生

when you are first saved, are u so clearly about all those differences?

回復 18# 追求永生

I agree with you. However, I would spend my time praying rather than picking those words.

回復  追求永生

I agree with you. However, I would spend my time praying rather than picking thos ...
Guest from 137.44.9.x 發表於 2010-6-3 23:19

Then why are you typing and posting more than anyone else here?

回復 26# Guest from 72.230.112.x
I posted the article here to ask for prayers. I didn't expect to have so many argues including doubting the gospel. As I posted the article here, I am responsible for explaining it. That's why I replied all the replies.

This is the last one I reply here.

回復 26# Guest from 72.230.112.x
I posted the article here to ask for prayers. I didn't expect to have so many argues including doubting the gospel. As I posted the article here, I am responsible for explaining it. That's why I replied all the replies.

This is the last one I reply here.

回復 28# Guest from 137.44.9.x

I read your mind. When you say "However, I would spend my time praying rather than picking those words." to 追求永生，you actually mean "you should spend your time praying rather than picking those words". You use the word "I" but means "you" indeed, you are criticising all the other people who don't follow your advocation to pray because you are upset. So, I am helping you realize that the sense of "I" in your mind is indeed much stronger than the sense for the virture of these workers! You were expecting people say Amen and let us pray, thank you for telling us, and when you didn't hear what you expect, you got upset, and when you got upset you saw different opinions as criticisms and wrongful thoughts, you put yourself into the opposition of other people! Did this follow Jesus's teaching? Does this show love, tolerance, forgiveness?

回復  Guest from 69.136.248.x

There is no such thing as God use people's life to glory him. You  ...
redbud 發表於 2010-6-3 18:38

十二灘殷紅的血跡是上帝在富士康動工的序曲，不就是這個意思么？勸你還是省省吧，越描越黑。

回復 27# Guest from 137.44.9.x


    support your good deed and intent.

回復 1# redbud


   
如果富士康的事是神在動工，那神就是欠揍

原來剝削階級仍然可以通過基督教來斂財消災


援助之手遠勝禱告之唇。

第一，自殺是一個悲劇，是一個災難，直接說成是神的榮耀不妥。

第二。福音是要拯救人的靈魂，而不是拯救一個企業。追求永生 發表於 2010-6-3 13:44

眼睛很尖啊。

原來剝削階級仍然可以通過基督教來斂財消災


援助之手遠勝禱告之唇。
Guest from 217.41.20.x 發表於 2010-6-4 14:52

我曾看過一個德雷莎修女的電影，她就是屬於那種廢話少說，多做實事的修女，所以她得到了全世界的尊重。

乘人之危,趁火打劫. 他們每個人交10%工資給兩個牧師,這兩牧師就發財了.
工人們受資本家剝削之外,還得在受基督教的盤剝.這些工人的日子可怎麼過!

估計永生體會到「寧要狼一樣的對手，不要豬一樣的隊友」了，給其他腦癱基督徒擦屁股即無聊又無奈。

我在廣州，願意參與當中的服事，希望大家從為富士康的管理人員和員工禱告開始吧。