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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-22 21:41 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=zzyzx]Wish what you have been acting here would just be a side of you. [/QUOTE]

I know how I've been acting here. I have an impression that the threads which I contributed major discussions had generated more traffic. It means readers like them. You can certainly try to disprove it.

Say, look at this thread, in not quite 2 days, there were more than 800 people/times read it. Why? I think people like the truth to be told.
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johndoe23 發表於 2006-8-24 05:58 | 只看該作者
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i sure like your writing more. Good English. I like what you have said also.
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zzyzx 發表於 2006-8-24 07:03 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=johndoe23]To: zzyzx:

i sure like your writing more. Good English. I like what you have said also.[/QUOTE]

When we bump into a guy with the boundless joy in fighting Heaven, the boundless joy in fighting Earth, and the boundless joy in fighting Man, there is not much we can do as though whenever a scholar runs into soldiers, the more he argues, the muddier his point becomes. In addition of that, I don』t like to trade the friendship in on a few extra words making me happy. Let』s move forward for something else we understand and care more. By the way, Johndoe23, thanks a lot for your encouraging.
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sujie_alex 發表於 2006-8-24 09:09 | 只看該作者
人民日報的前編輯馬立誠曾在日本遊歷三月余,回來寫觀感,尚不能全面,茅先生何以能得到"和諧"的斷言...

走馬觀花而已....
一個人應該活得是自己並且乾淨。 - 顧城
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zzyzx 發表於 2006-8-24 11:48 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=sujie_alex]人民日報的前編輯馬立誠曾在日本遊歷三月余,回來寫觀感,尚不能全面,茅先生何以能得到"和諧"的斷言...

走馬觀花而已....[/QUOTE]

茅先生談到這樣和諧社區環境應該是很多的,至少我就生活在類似社區,長達十四年之久,或許比他介紹的還好一些,只是沒有公車可抵家門口。當然美國的黑暗面也不少,在這裡我就不談了。入鄉問俗嗎,每個人都可以找到適合他的環境,或調整自己,使自己適合現在居住的環境,或者遷入比較好的社區。
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johndoe23 發表於 2006-8-25 00:45 | 只看該作者
to ZZYZX:

Well said. As my friend Kevin used to say: opinion  is like a**hole, everybody has one. I agree with you that it is most of the time useless to try to convince other people. People believe what they want to believe, that's it.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 01:27 | 只看該作者
ZZYZX, and Johndoe23:

I don't have any problems with you personally, or with any other people frequenting this site. No need to make personal attack, because that will make the attacker the lower order of human beings.

Everybody can find 和諧社會 anywhere and enjoy it privately. But once you posted something about your private experiences on a public internet site, it isn't your private domain  any more. Because you youself made your personal opinions public, and you're trying to influence public with your personal opinions. If your writing isn't correct or precise, if it is biased, people have right to comment it, refute it, or even critize it. It is called freedom of speech (I thought everybody understands it since we all have been in this country for so long). At the same time, you, of course have your right to defense yourself.

I truly enjoy discussions. Your comments and criticism are always welcomed.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 01:53 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=sujie_alex]人民日報的前編輯馬立誠曾在日本遊歷三月余,回來寫觀感,尚不能全面,茅先生何以能得到"和諧"的斷言...

走馬觀花而已....[/QUOTE]

They don't realize they did nothing but 走馬觀花. They thought they have found the truth.
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johndoe23 發表於 2006-8-25 04:05 | 只看該作者
Just curious, is property tax 5g a lot ? if the tax rate is 1%, then the house value is half mil. Big deal!!!
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zzyzx 發表於 2006-8-25 05:19 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=johndoe23]Just curious, is property tax 5g a lot ? if the tax rate is 1%, then the house value is half mil. Bi...[/QUOTE]

To me, $5K for one』s property tax annually is a lot. I know New Jersey has the highest property tax, probably up to 10%, part of Texas having around 3.6%, and a little over 1% for Southern California.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 07:18 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=johndoe23]if the tax rate is 1%, then the house value is half mil. Big deal!!![/QUOTE]

Not big deal!!! Only I forgot to tell you we bought the house more than 10 years ago, not recently. The tax value doesn't reflect the market price of the house after the real estate jump in recent years.

I can't believe I actually educate you on that. It doesn't really matter.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 07:22 | 只看該作者
Let's not talk about money in this thread.
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johndoe23 發表於 2006-8-25 09:21 | 只看該作者
My property tax is twice as much as yours but I don't complain. It goes to the school, the excellent highway systems, the most uncorrupted government system, the best health care system, the best science and development institutes/projects in the world.. the list goes on and on.
I have been here for 15 yrs and I love this country more and more. I am puzzled by some of the comments on this thread from people who obviously doing well, enjoying their life in this country but hate this government if not this country. I don't how to call this, cynical or schizophrenic. I guess all those re-educations didn't educate someone about one thing-- the government and the political system of US is far from perfect, but it is the best so far. That is the unbiased truth. It has nothing to do freedom of speech.
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johndoe23 發表於 2006-8-25 09:26 | 只看該作者
I think bragging about a lousy 5g property tax is laughable.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 09:44 | 只看該作者
This thread is not about love or money, but about true or false information.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 09:46 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=johndoe23]I think bragging about a lousy 5g property tax is laughable.[/QUOTE]

So bragging twice as much is twice laughable.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 10:18 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=johndoe23]My property tax is twice as much as yours but I don't complain...[/QUOTE]

Long time ago, there was a distinguished psychologist in US (taking any psychology class in the States?). He proposed a well-known theory which arrranges human needs in hierarchies. The theory is a foundation, on which the modern behavioral science is based.

The order of the needs is physiological needs (eat, drink, shelter...), safety needs, social needs, esteem needs, and self-fulfillment needs.

What you talked about in the above post is mainly about physiological needs, the needs of a wanting animal, the lowest needs of a human being. I have long passed that one.

It is those needs that separated you and you friend from me.

I hesitated to tell you and your friend about this theory, because I was considering whether there was a need to make you and your friend "in pain" with me. Anyway, al least, you'll learn something from me. I assume you'd never heard the theory when you wrote above post, otherwise you wouldn't have bragged about your satisfaction of the most base needs of a humanoid.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 11:31 | 只看該作者
By the way, anybody by any chance know how to translate "有奶便是娘" into English, though I know I should probably go to 英語園地 to ask this question. Just curious...
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zzyzx 發表於 2006-8-25 11:57 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=johndoe23]My property tax is twice as much as yours but I don't complain. It goes to the school, the excellent...[/QUOTE]

There』s nothing wonderful like reading your threads today. Excellent points and beautiful writing, I am not just saying that, I mean it.
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Mythologist 發表於 2006-8-25 17:32 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=zzyzx]There』s nothing wonderful like reading your threads today. Excellent points and beautiful writing, I...[/QUOTE]

Read post #39, it is for you too.
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