中國人是智商最高的人種？

個體的聰明對全體不產生什麼影響.

[QUOTE=靈犀]看不出對這種命題的爭論有什麼意義。[/QUOTE]

The only reason I posted this discussion here is to get this idea crossed:

If we are not more intelligent than any other races or people in the world, we are definitley not less intelligent than any of them.

So folks, be confident. Most times, all the competitions, after all, are the competitions of intelligence.

　　智商測試是可以通過培訓而提高分數的，在某種程度上測的是一個人的應試能力。所以，如果東亞人的平均智商比較高，也許不過說明了他們的應試能力較強，這並不是什麼值得特別驕傲的事。為此沾沾自喜而去支持種族主義論調，就很可悲了。

[QUOTE=tcc7738]　　智商測試是可以通過培訓而提高分數的，在某種程度上測的是一個人的應試能力。所以，如果東亞人的平均智商比較高，也許不過說明了他們的應試能力較強...[/QUOTE]

To speak the truth, for my life, I haven't taken any IQ test, let alone to be trained for the test, given the fact that I have my college degree in China and graduate degrees in US. I never heard any of my friends or classmates, or any people I know in China did that either.

But I know, to get into Gifted Classes, my children did. I know all of their classmates did that too. They are all in US.

tcc7738 (I need a reply, for I'm not sure whether I was really ill informed), did you ever taken any IQ test or trained to take IQ test? Or do you know anybody of your frends, classmates did? IQ test is a test designed to measure your cognitive ability, not TOFEL, GRE, or any thing like that.

和這麼多東西有關係呢啊

[QUOTE=Mythologist]The only reason I posted this discussion here is to get this idea crossed:

If we are not more in...[/QUOTE]

totally agree with you. I thought this is so simple that there is no need to argue abut it.

[QUOTE=靈犀]totally agree with you. I thought this is so simple that there is no need to argue abut it. [/QUOTE]

So, 靈犀, I trust you will answer the following post for me. Thanks.

[QUOTE=空手]個體的聰明對全體不產生什麼影響.[/QUOTE]

這個問題難度較高，偶回答不了

[QUOTE=靈犀]這個問題難度較高，偶回答不了 [/QUOTE]

這茶到這會兒， 才吃出味來。

因為人太聰明了,缺乏對他人,對社會,對國家,對民族,對將來的,個人的奉獻. 最好都是別人奉獻,自己不奉獻.

看看前些年的希望工程就知道了,這希望工程本身沒有什麼不好,而這結果是人人皆知的,...叫別人捐錢,自己不捐錢(看看那些貪官,和既得利益的人,哪一個不是腰包鼓鼓的),現在又搞什麼一對一的幫窮孩子讀書,...那政府在什麼呢? 還有這二天才看的政府的外匯儲備竟然有9400多億.

千百年都是如此,不僅僅是現在,...可能也是一種文化了.

[QUOTE=Mythologist]這茶到這會兒， 才吃出味來。[/QUOTE]

偶不是來喝茶滴，偶是來趟渾水的 [:471:] [:471:]

生活在國外多年,看看當地人並不一定聰明,...可生活,社會制度,環境,要比國內好多了. 所以中國人的這種聰明對於一個社會整體的發展是沒有用的,...這種聰明常常是會OVERFLOW危害社會,危害別人的,並不造福於人,造福於社會.

[QUOTE=空手]因為人太聰明了,缺乏對他人,對社會,對國家,對民族,對將來的,個人的奉獻. 最好都是別人奉獻,自己不奉獻.

看看前些年的希望工程就知道了,這希望工程本身沒有什麼不好,而這結果是人人皆知的,......[/QUOTE]

"聰明"和"智商"不是一個概念。因為"智商"的定義就是智商測試所得的分數。是一個人生來具有的。

我想您所說的"聰明"是另外一回事，它是後天發展的。

如果智商測試也能測出"聰明",我想"聰明"一定是反智商的（anti-intelligence)。

[QUOTE=靈犀]偶不是來喝茶滴，偶是來趟渾水的 [:471:] [:471:][/QUOTE]

If you can 轉帖the articles such as "貝聿銘", "很多錯誤，選擇以後才知道", "我的經歷，從觀望者到觀望者" (which I enjoyed very much reading), I'm sure you are not there to 趟渾水. Thanks.

The most important thing which decide a person's future IS his or her determination, NOT IQ. Give me a break. As to a nation, it's the whole nation's determination, NOT individual IQ , decide the nation's future.

[QUOTE=John Gu]The most important thing which decide a person's future IS his or her determination, NOT IQ. Give me...[/QUOTE]

To say the most extreme, how much determination can an idiot have? What is the use even if an idiot has some determination?

On a larger scale, how far can a bunch of idiots go?

By the way, deternination is a factor for success, even an important one, but not the topic we have talked about here.

在某些方面，中國人有自己獨特的思維方式。內斂，含蓄，考慮問題喜歡全面思考。

Chinese have high IQ but loe EQ
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sorry i mean low EQ,[:475:] [:475:]

[QUOTE=goodoctor]Chinese have high IQ but loe EQ
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First half of the sentence you can say with confidence, because there are data to support it but for the last half, you have to show some proof. To identify a trait from a race is not as easy as pointing out a physical feature--black hair, black eyes...

However, people are allowed to think. To prove your last half of the sentence might merit a research project for a doctorial dissertation. So go ahead, search for theotical grounds, define the concept EQ, construct a meansurement, collect data, analyze them, and make a conclusion...good luck!

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