摩門異教的一樁新罪被披露，78妻妾，24未成年。

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Polygamist leader's records helped get convictions

BY WILL WEISSERT,Associated Press



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A law enforcement officer, left, escorts polygamist religious leader Warren Jeffs, right, into the Tom Green County Courthouse Thursday Aug. 4, 2011, in San Angelo, Texas. The defense rested Thursday in the sexual assault trial against Jeffs in which he served as his own defense. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)

SAN ANGELO, Texas (AP) — As a prophet of his polygamist sect, Warren Jeffs documented everything he did, keeping track of every marriage he performed, every young woman he wed, and even recording his intimate moments.

It was those meticulous records — including an audiotape of what prosecutors said was him sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl he'd taken as a bride — that helped authorities secure two child sex assault convictions against the 55-year-old ecclesiastical head of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Now, prosecutors hope those same records will help bring a life prison sentence to a man regarded by his followers as God's spokesman on Earth. The West Texas jurors who convicted Jeffs will begin determining his appropriate punishment on Friday, and they'll hear evidence about scores of alleged crimes not mentioned during his trial.

For starters, Jeffs had 78 wives in addition to his legal spouse, and 24 of them were under age 17, said Eric Nichols, lead prosecutor for the Texas Attorney General's office, which is handling the case. Nichols also said he would show that Jeffs committed six other sexual assaults and either witnessed or performed more than 500 polygamist marriages, as well as 67 other sect marriages involving underage girls.

Jeffs spent years evading arrest, crisscrossing the country as a fugitive who eventually made the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list before his capture in 2006. He excommunicated 60 church members he saw as a threat to his leadership, breaking up 300 families while stripping them of property and "reassigning" wives and children, Nichols said.

All of that is separate from the criminal charges on which he was convicted Thursday. Jurors deliberated for 3½ hours before finding Jeffs guilty of sexually assaulting two girls, ages 12 and 15, whom he'd wed during what his sect considers "spiritual marriages."

Prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Jeffs fathered a child with the older victim and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting the younger girl. They played other tapes in which Jeffs was heard instructing as many as a dozen of his young wives on how to please him sexually — and thus, he told them, please God.

"You might have asked yourselves ... a lot of people may ask, why would someone record sex?" Nichols told jurors during closing arguments. "This individual considers himself to be the prophet. Everything he did, hour after hour, he was required to keep a record of that."

Jeffs' sect has more than 10,000 members nationwide who believe polygamy brings exaltation in heaven.

Both victims entered into unions with Jeffs willingly, and did not participate in the trial against him. But Nichols said in his closing statement that the crimes were so egregious that under Texas law, convictions did not require the victim to bring charges. Continued...

Jeffs burned through seven lawyers in six months, then insisted on representing himself after jury selection last week — turning a high-profile case into what felt at times like a surreal religious revival.

He quoted God as threatening all involved with a Biblical scourge if the case wasn't halted immediately, then later filed an unsuccessful motion to remove state District Judge Barbara Walther from the case, saying the Lord visited him in his jail cell and said Walther was afflicted from a crippling disease that would soon kill her. The judge suffered polio as a child and walks with a limp.

Jeffs stood almost completely mute during his closing argument, staring at the floor for all but a few seconds of the half hour he was allotted. He finally turned and looked toward prosecutors and the jury, most of whom avoided direct eye contact with him. "I am at peace" he mumbled, then said no more. The only noise in the courtroom was the creaking of wooden benches brimming with spectators.

Jeffs had claimed his religious rights were being trampled after police raided his sect's remote Texas compound, called Yearning For Zion, in April 2008. They found women wearing frontier-style dresses and hairdos from the 19th century and saw underage girls who were clearly pregnant.

The call to an abuse hotline that spurred the raid turned out to be a hoax, and more than 400 children who had been placed in protective custody were eventually returned to their families. But authorities found a small mountain of documents, including hundreds and hundreds of pages of Jeffs' personal journals, which he called his "Priesthood record."

That helped bring sexual assault and bigamy charges against a dozen men from the sect. All seven of those who were prosecuted before Jeffs were convicted, and they received prison sentences of between six and 75 years.

hellman 發表於 2011-8-5 07:12
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Polygamist lea ...

摩門教是異教，他們的信仰和基督教的信仰有本質的不同。而他們的違法，又和他們的信仰沒有直接關係，當事人的犯罪只是他個人的原因和責任。犯罪該受到懲罰找什麼借口都沒有用。

基督徒們應該多娶老婆。


代下11:21|21羅波安娶十八個妻，立六十個妾，生二十八個兒子，六十個女兒。他卻愛押沙龍的女兒瑪迦，比愛別的妻妾更甚。
代下13:21|21亞比雅卻漸漸強盛，娶妻妾十四個，生了二十二個兒子，十六個女兒。

舊約中首先有妾侍的人是亞伯拉罕,他娶妾侍還是由他老婆一力促成,求他納妾
當妾侍夏甲與撒萊爭風吃醋而出走之後,神的使者還命令夏甲返回,此是上帝encourage和endorse妾侍制度的證明
加上日後他又賜福給夏甲所生的以馬實利,意思就是神聽見,更加鐵證如山
上帝聽見妾侍的苦情,應允日後善待她,叫她好歹都先回到主母處

隨著而來有娶妾侍的有:
拿鶴,雅各,以利法,基甸,迦勒,瑪拿西,羅波安
此外掃羅,所羅門,大衛都有妃嬪
摩西律法亦容許有二妻
申命記 21:15
人若有二妻、一為所愛、一為所惡、所愛的所惡的、都給他生了兒子、但長子是所惡之妻生的

摩門教也是基督教全名「耶穌基督後期聖徒教會」。
不是異教，是基督教的不同教派。你不能和他們劃清界限。

hellman 發表於 2011-8-6 00:20
基督徒們應該多娶老婆。

幹嘛呢？你列的這些例子都不是基督徒。

追求永生 發表於 2011-8-5 23:40
摩門教是異教，他們的信仰和基督教的信仰有本質的不同。而他們的違法，又和他們的信仰沒有直接關係，當事 ...

還和信仰沒有關係？直接是信仰導致的，他們的信仰允許娶多個老婆，聖經也說可以娶多個老婆。他們的老婆意願服伺他們也是信仰的強迫的結果。未成年孩子意願嫁給他也是教會洗腦的結果。哪個女的意願嫁給有80多個老婆的人？還不是有人告訴她神要她嫁的？你們不娶多個老婆，是你們虧了。

來往加國 發表於 2011-8-6 00:35
幹嘛呢？你列的這些例子都不是基督徒。

「耶穌基督後期聖徒教會」不是基督徒是什麼？

耶穌基督後期聖徒教會（The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints）（早期翻譯為耶穌基督末世聖徒教會）是為泛基督信仰各宗派運動的一個分支，但其在信仰內容上與基督教有別，而坊間一般更常用摩爾門教（Mormon）這個非正式的名稱。（至少可以說他們是信耶穌的。）

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8 ... 2%E6%95%99%E6%9C%83

題目被偷改了。

hellman 發表於 2011-8-5 11:45
題目被偷改了。

這樣也好。

hellman 發表於 2011-8-5 11:36
還和信仰沒有關係？直接是信仰導致的，他們的信仰允許娶多個老婆，聖經也說可以娶多個老婆。他們的老婆意 ...

因為現代的摩門教也反對多妻制了。Like兄如果找到他們依然有多妻制的教義，請帖出來，我想看看。

hellman 發表於 2011-8-5 11:41
「耶穌基督後期聖徒教會」不是基督徒是什麼？

耶穌基督後期聖徒教會（The Church of Jesus Christ o ...

摩門教不是基督教，他們自己怎麼給自己命名，是他們自己的事情。

追求永生 發表於 2011-8-6 01:12
摩門教不是基督教，他們自己怎麼給自己命名，是他們自己的事情。

呵呵，聖靈跑哪兒去了？怎麼有人掛羊頭賣狗肉也不管呢？

回復 追求永生 14樓 的帖子

問題是別人也不承認你是基督教。現在的情況是：都在自已說自已是基督教，說別人不是基督教

回復 ·八戒· 15樓 的帖子

神的靈是運行在水面上的，他不進入水裡面。所以這種水內部問題它不管。

"Friday, after reading a statement he claimed was from God. The statement promised a "whirlwind of judgment" on the world if God's "humble servant" wasn't set free."


"Jeffs is the ecclesiastical head of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which believes polygamy brings exaltation in heaven. The more than 10,000 FLDS members nationwide see Jeffs as a prophet who is God's spokesman on Earth."

"They played other tapes in which Jeffs was heard instructing as many as a dozen of his young wives on how to please him sexually — and thus, he told them, please God."


http://news.yahoo.com/polygamist ... ring-183553456.html

追求永生 發表於 2011-8-6 01:11
因為現代的摩門教也反對多妻制了。Like兄如果找到他們依然有多妻制的教義，請帖出來，我想看看。

有聖經就夠了，就證明神讓人們娶許多老婆。不但摩門教可以娶許多老婆，信了耶穌都可以娶許多老婆。至於世俗不允許那是另外一回事。因為聖經是真理。反對多妻制，就是反對耶穌，反對基督教。

hellman 發表於 2011-8-5 21:21
有聖經就夠了，就證明神讓人們娶許多老婆。不但摩門教可以娶許多老婆，信了耶穌都可以娶許多老婆。至於 ...

學聖經是學習神對我們的要求，不是模仿文化背景，不是返回歷史。

不是Like兄想加入摩門教吧，不然為什麼為這些犯罪找理由呢。