試探主和求主有什麼分別？

替青貝殼提問.

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試探主就如魔鬼試探耶穌，明明知道祂是主，卻去試探祂，妄圖引誘道成肉身的主犯罪；求主是己所不能及的，求主幫助，求主引領。二者的主要區別是，試探是以引誘犯罪來試探；求主是由於自己所不能達到，然而求主要得到回應，必須所求合符神的心意。

靜候迴音，是為至盼。

There is a story in the Bible from chapter of 4 in John. If the Lord Jesus or anyone else did what the devil told Him to do, then it was a test to God.
4:5 而後魔鬼帶祂進了聖城，叫祂站在殿翼上，
4:6 對祂說，你若是神的兒子，就跳下去罷；因為經上記著，「主要為你吩咐祂的使者，用手托著你，免得你的腳碰在石頭上。」
4:7 耶穌對他說，經上又記著，「不可試探主你的神。」
There are many stories of people who asked the Lord to cure them or their children. It is "Qiu Zhu.'
Test the Lord means you don't trust Him, you want to do something to find out if what you know or what you heard is true. The Lord hates it.
"Qiu Zhu" means there is something you really need the help from the Lord.
So to me, simply said, the difference is the motivation, or intention.
To help you understand better, I will tell you two stories. One happend to someone that I know, the other I heard from the TV.
Many years ago, this friend of mine just got saved in Ohio. In the winter it was snowing and the temperature was way below freezing point. He was only wearing a T shirt and stood in the cold. He said the Lord will protect him from getting sick. Of course, he got sick afterwards. This is an example of testing the Lord. He had warm cloths he could wear and he had a warm room he could to into, he did not put on his cloths to keep him warm, nor did he get into the room to keep him away from the coldness, instead, he stood outside for nothing but to see if the Lord will protect him from getting cold. It is a test to the Lord.
The second story I heard from NBC a long time ago. It is about a Christian prisoner in the former Soviet Union, who was imprisoned in Siberia. A cold winter night, the guards wanted to have some fun. This prisoner was ordered to take off all his cloths in his unheated cell. He was so cold that he got close to the only heat source in his cell, a small light. When the guards saw this, they turned the light off. He was basically let to die. He prayed to the Lord and asked the Lord if his time is up, then let him die that day. After his prayer, he saw a great light, the he felt he was in a very warm room the whole night. The second monring, the guards were shocked to see him alive and unharmed.
From these two stories, I hope you can get a good idea of what is test and what is ask or plea to the Lord.

是不是神的，不試如何知道。神怕人來試會是神嗎。牧師就常對不信的人說：你試試禱告，神一定聽的。不就試起來了嗎。

牧師就常對不信的人說：你試試禱告，神一定聽的。不就試起來了嗎。

最好別試，因為結果往往是不如意的。

當然，如果你事先知道如何安慰自己的話，也不妨試試。如何安慰嘛，是這樣的：如果禱告顯靈了，那是神垂聽了你的禱告。如果不靈，那是你的要求不符合神的旨意。

神的旨意是什麼呢？（看聖經。那是神的話。把聖經看完，也用不著去求了。）怎麼還不如像算命先生說的：心誠則靈。

拎不清 發表於 2011-1-9 01:23
神的旨意是什麼呢？（看聖經。那是神的話。把聖經看完，也用不著去求了。）怎麼還不如像算命先生說的：心誠 ...

「要用心靈和誠實拜祂！」

見過一個虔誠的基督徒做見證,她很喜歡她的男友,但又時時怕自己犯了淫亂罪,於是每次男朋友約會她,她就祈禱"主啊,告訴我這次該赴約呢還是不該去呢,如果我可以去呢,你就讓雨停了(反正每次她都能找到啟示,比如看見一隻貓啊,等車不超過十分鐘啊什麼的),要是雨不停(看不到貓,等了很久...)呢,俺就照您的旨意,不去約會..."終於他們倆修成了正果.

在婚禮上,她說了這個見證,感謝主給了她美好的婚姻.....她還真誠地勸告沒結婚的小姐妹們,要找到好老公,一定要信靠主,只有主才會賜給她們美好的姻緣......多多祈禱......

催肥 發表於 2011-1-18 13:38
見過一個虔誠的基督徒做見證,她很喜歡她的男友,但又時時怕自己犯了淫亂罪,於是每次男朋友約會她,她就祈禱"主 ...

她很喜歡她的男友,但又時時怕自己犯了淫亂罪,於是每次男朋友約會她,她就祈禱"主啊,告訴我這次該赴約呢還是不該去呢,

唉，這不是一個好主意啊，萬一有人學她禱告問，今天該不該與男友上床，然後以下不下雨來打賭，結果很危險哦！

很多見證是害人。不能當真。其實說的人也只是說說而已。他要什麼事都如那樣做，必離婚收場。

拎不清 發表於 2011-1-19 03:23
很多見證是害人。不能當真。其實說的人也只是說說而已。他要什麼事都如那樣做，必離婚收場。

不過，離婚前也不要忘了試驗一下「比如看見一隻貓啊,等車不超過十分鐘啊什麼的),要是雨不停(看不到貓,等了很久...)」 什麼的。

研究 發表於 2011-1-7 13:14
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試探主就如魔鬼試探耶穌，明明知道祂是主，卻去試探祂，妄圖引誘道成肉身的主犯罪 ...

阿門！

livingspring 發表於 2011-1-8 05:43
There is a story in the Bible from chapter of 4 in John. If the Lord Jesus or anyone else did what t ...

謝謝活泉弟兄引用的經文和見證。

催肥 發表於 2011-1-18 13:38
見過一個虔誠的基督徒做見證,她很喜歡她的男友,但又時時怕自己犯了淫亂罪,於是每次男朋友約會她,她就祈禱"主 ...

請教研版，這算是試探主還是求主？