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諧和。 發表於 2009-12-31 08:15 | 只看該作者 回帖獎勵 |倒序瀏覽 |閱讀模式
BBC 正文:Was China right to execute drug smuggling Briton?

A British man, thought to be mentally ill, has been executed in China for drug smuggling. Should China have shown clemency?

Akmal Shaikh was condemned to death for smuggling 4kgs of heroin into China - a charge he denied.

He was executed on Tuesday morning despite a string of appeals from the British government and his relatives, who had claimed Mr Shaikh suffered from bipolar disorder and was unwittingly lured into the crime.

Should Chinese authorities have granted a reprieve? Is the Chinese government right not to bow to international pressure? Should Britain interfere in other countries' legal systems? What effect will this have on relations between Britain and China?

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Published: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 04:21 GMT 04:21 UK
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 04:37 GMT 04:37 UK
Maybe if we had a legal system like China we'd have less problems with ferral drug addled layabouts in this country.
Steve, London
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 04:37 GMT 04:37 UK
Every country has the right to a court system and enforcement of their law. Don't like it? Don't commit a crime in that country.
[Corruptuser], United States
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:20 GMT 05:20 UK
Well done China! This should be a mandatory punishment throughout the world. If you show up with 4kg of heroin in your baggage at an airport, don't expect any sympathy. The sooner these tree-hugging sandle-wearing do-gooders take off their rose coloured glasses the better!

Claiming you are bipolar after the event doesn't and shouldn't wash. If his family were so concerned about him then why on earth let him travel, alone, to the other side of the world.

Stevie baby
steve collinson, phuket
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 08:44 GMT 08:44 UK
People should stop believing everything they read and assuming it's true. Here's the honest unemotional version.

He wasn't British, he'd run his own business, the bi-polar excuse wasn't true, he knew the risks, he stood to make a huge amount of money at the expense of other peoples lives.

I'm amazed at how many people on here are defending him, sitting in their nice insulated world, unaware or unable to actually see what a hell hole this country has turned into.
TheTruth, Lichfield
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:51 GMT 05:51 UK
A good friend of mine suffers from acute bipolar disorder. He goes through the classic highs and lows of manic depression and it can affect his professional life.
It does not cloud his moral judgement though and he is no more susceptible to being tricked into anything than anybody else.
To use Mr Shaikh's illness to try to gain him a reprieve by suggesting that people with the condition cannot be held accountable for their own actions, is a great disservice to bipolar sufferers.
Will de Beest, Spain
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 06:51 GMT 06:51 UK
Lets get this into perspective, he was carrying enough drugs to kill 26,800 people. Now tell me they were wrong to execute him. I think not.
George Cook, Gold Coast. Australia
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 04:54 GMT 04:54 UK
Smuggle drugs into China? You die.

No excuses. No exceptions.
Wendy Simpson, Bournemouth, United Kingdom
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:47 GMT 05:47 UK
"EU National" when did that start being official BBC language to describe British Nationals?

And 'Yes' is the answer to the question. He did the crime so he gets punished by the law of that land. Maybe if Britain wasn't so soft we would have people think twice before committing allsorts of crimes here.
[MovingRight], Looking for a great, United Kingdom
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 06:52 GMT 06:52 UK
Why are so many complaining about this "justified" execution? There is no sacrifice here at all !! Surely, we must support and respect any countrys' law that has the death penalty for drug offences.
Akmal Shaikh knew what he was doing! This was totally pre-meditated and with no regard whatsoever to the thousands he would have a hand in ultimately killing by allowing these drugs to hit our streets.
Well Done China!
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 06:50 GMT 06:50 UK
The sentence is fair - Chinese citizens are subjected to the same law. The Government of the People's Republic of China is right in proceeding with the execution.

Mental illness? That is a frequent excuse.

In Singapore, 15 g heroin is sufficient to impose the death penalty.
Al T T, Singapore
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:47 GMT 05:47 UK
A good drug smuggler is a dead one.

End of.
Simon, Cheshire
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 04:44 GMT 04:44 UK
Why is the UK seeking to interfere in the Chinese judicial system – I』m sure there would be an outcry if the Chinese sought to interfere with British justice. Britain can』t have it both ways.
Steve, Hong Kong
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 04:46 GMT 04:46 UK
Absolutely right for China to execute convicted drug smuggler Akmal Shaikh. Britain does not have any right to interfere in another country's legal system if crimes are committed by its national. Not so long ago a Nigerian born British woman escaped death sentence for drug smuggling in Laos after Britain bullied and demonised Laos claiming she was raped and tortured all this turned out to be lies as soon as she to returned home. Glad China did not bend to British pressure.
Simon, Liverpool
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 06:49 GMT 06:49 UK
Some of the comments in this forum are just downright childish. The fact is this man brought 4 kgs of heroin into a country which, like many others including Singapore and Malaysia, has the death penalty for people convicted of such an offense. There have been endless stories in recent years about people who take parcels for others across borders which are then found to be drugs. It's inconceivable that anyone still believes lack of knowledge of such a parcel's content is a viable defense.
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 06:53 GMT 06:53 UK
The death penalty should be compulsory for all hard drug dealers, pushers and manufacturers found guilty anywhere on the planet. They have no mercy and should be shown none. Execute them -- including those individuals and companies who manufacture fake prescription pharmaceuticals, sell outdated drugs, or make prescription drugs banned as unsafe in Western countries but sold in south nations. No mercy to these murderers.
Rudy Haugeneder, victoria, bc, canada
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 06:11 GMT 06:11 UK
OK.

A man is executed for smuggling drugs but it』s not his fault because he has mental health issues.

A man hacks into American military computers but it』s not his fault because he has aspergers syndrome.

A bunch of yobs kick a man to death but it』s not their fault because they had a bad upbringing.

Sorry but it』s all excuses, nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions any more, it』s always somebody else』s fault, if you don』t like the consequences then don』t do the crime.

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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:51 GMT 05:51 UK
Gordon Brown urging China to give a reprieve makes me sick. That just about sums him up. Look after the interests of low life scum while the country is collapsing around his ears. Lets count the days until we get rid of this idiot.

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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 16:07 GMT 16:07 UK
that poor man, with his bi polar disorder, a british citizen living in poland traveling to china only to be caught with 4 kg of heroin.
so the british government think china made the wrong decision by executing him ?
he wasnt so ill he could book flights and travel alone all over the world but as soon as he gets caught people jump on his mental state, sorry but the chinese made the RIGHT decision. pity the british government dont follow suit and make a dent in the uk drug problem !

[vivnap], derbyshire, United Kingdom

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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 09:21 GMT 09:21 UK
When someone is in a foreign country they have to respect their laws and this man clearly didn't. He surely knew the risks and paid the price. Maybe this will deter other people from this sort of serious crime.

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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 10:20 GMT 10:20 UK
We need to take a leaf out of Chinas book and start executing all druggies and their dealers.

My kids could then grow up without this filth peddling their muck at them, and the user wouldnt need to resort to crime to fuel their habit

If you cant do the time, dont do the crime!

As for Milliband saying the UK doesnt want capital punishment, RUBBISH, wimpy politcians don't, real people do.

Gordon Wright, Lisburn
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 08:43 GMT 08:43 UK
I don't see any necessarities for this discussion. A drug sumggler broke the laws, therefore he had to take the consequence which he must foresee. People want China to show mercy because of what? Because he failed to deal his drugs which failed to help increase some points on the GNP? Well done China!

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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:23 GMT 05:23 UK
If he was so mentally immbalanced, then why was he allowed by his family to go globe trotting alone in the first place.

[Thunderboxers], England

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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:13 GMT 05:13 UK
The Chinese supreme court has asked for the evidence from British to prove he got mental illness. Where is Akmal Shaikh's GP? Where is his illness records? I just can not believe a guy like his age does not have any records if he really has the mental problem.

Ian, wellington
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 12:57 GMT 12:57 UK
China was absolutely right to do this...Only wish Britain had a similar policy.

John Stocking, Melton Constable
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 09:21 GMT 09:21 UK
Yes the Chinese were right. Think of the damage and misery 4.5 kgs would cause. We didn't hear much about his mental state until now and bi-polar? That is hardly an illness that can cause you to break the law. It is a pity we do not have the death penalty and a our major drug trafficers were executed. As the Chinese Governmnet says' our people agree with the death penalty' and in England the majority would like to see the death penalty brought back.

MIHAEL EDWARDS, HASLEMERE
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 06:46 GMT 06:46 UK
1 less drug smuggler, yes it was right to execute him, if you try to smuggle drugs and the penalty if caught is death, live by the consequences of doing it.

Paul, Birmingham
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 17:55 GMT 17:55 UK
Yes they were right. It's about time people realised that other countries are not such a soft touch as ours.

If we punished people properly over here and sent back criminals to their own country we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

lesley, lincolnshire, peterborough
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:31 GMT 05:31 UK
The man committed a crime in a country where they have the death penalty for that crime. I am sure if we had the death penalty here for that crime, there wouldn't have been so much of it.


Britain should have not interefered in this case as the man about as British as someone from Peru. I think that British people should realise that they are not immune to crimes in other countries just because they are British.

Tony Caban, Hayling Island, United Kingdom

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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 17:41 GMT 17:41 UK
Yes, it was right to execute him. You obay the Laws of the Country you visit or live in.

British Government is far too easy on crooks and criminals who laugh at authority. The Government should bring back death penalty for United Kingdom then you will see the wrong doers leave our shores by the thousands.

Basil, London
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Added: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009, 05:46 GMT 05:46 UK
Each nation has its own rule of law. China isn't an exception. For the longest time, foreigner believe they were above the law. It is fair that China treats anyone in their own territory as equal to their own citizens and thus all abide under the same laws. No preferential treatment.

Moral or immoral, that is just a perception from each culture and each country. We aren't the only country that has the death sentence.

Chen, Beijing
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中國的中 發表於 2009-12-31 09:40 | 只看該作者
至少半數以上的英國人支持中國處死毒販。
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 樓主| 諧和。 發表於 2009-12-31 10:23 | 只看該作者
3# 中國的中

英國政客的手法不靈啦
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laodai 發表於 2009-12-31 11:21 | 只看該作者
一些善於幽默調侃的英國網友,讓人刮目相看。

中國官網上批評政府的帖子比比皆是,但「人們要中國顯示慈悲是由於什麼?」這樣睿智語言出現很少。

對毒販「顯示慈悲」的人究竟想幹什麼?深刻!
明有物有則,索源清流潔。
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amely7777 發表於 2009-12-31 11:27 | 只看該作者
哈哈
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Sinoken 發表於 2009-12-31 14:46 | 只看該作者
再一次掃盲一下:
通俗的說,民主是 本國當權者與本國民眾之間的一種關係,反映在憲法和國家體制上
國與國之間只有利益的關係,
不要把國與國之間的衝突扯到 民不民主上來!毛毛們混淆視聽,十分可惡!!!
我們要關心 中國ZF對人民 民不民主,美國ZF對其本國人民 民不心主!
不要 扯到 美國ZF對中國人民 不民主,聽起來像是小朋友說的話。
一國ZF存在的意義就是 對內善待民眾,為民眾謀福利,對外維護國家安全,為國家利益而努力。
布朗,奧巴馬之行為,可知這是他們職責之所在。
而我們的ZF又是如何做的呢?
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7# Sinoken


你是真不知自己是何物還是裝傻?老是在這兒屁顛屁顛地逞能,煩不煩?
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