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中國情深 發表於 2008-4-15 08:37 | 只看該作者 回帖獎勵 |倒序瀏覽 |閱讀模式
會感人。集會後讓我們冷靜地來看看一個西藏出生長大的藏族同胞的看法。(ZT)

我不是來裝成一個「理智的聲音」。 但, 現在起碼是時候減少點狂熱了。

我們支持統一, 支持奧運。 西方一夥鬧藏獨, 反奧運。

但事情的主角是誰呢? 誰受切身的影響呢? 這是一個主角的聲音。


Just simply from this thread its easy for me to see why there is such
controversy involving Tibet and why people can not come together to resolve this peacefully.

On one side you have the Chinese people who believe that the Dalai Lama is some kind of terrorist plot leader (engraved in their mind by Government propaganda) and that the protests are fueled by the Western media to divide China, and attempting to stop her from her way to becoming one of the leading world powers, which it already is.

On the other side, you have people from the west, most of whom are
uneducated on the history of Tibet, and argues to "free Tibet" whom they believe that Tibet was taken by force in recent history by the "big evil" communist government oppressed all freedom taken away from them. And instead of creating peaceful dialog like those the Lama has advocated, these people protest violently, even call for the boycott of the very game that will promote peace and dialog in a country that very much need it to resolve the conflict.

Been a Tibetan, I lived in Lhasa until 15 when my family moved to England and ultimately here to Houston and still make occasional trips to see my extended family all of whom still lives in rural villages spread across Tibet and China, it really pains me to see the conflict and divide this has caused. From what I have seen, read, and heard from both sides, its clear to me that neither side really knows the entire story and refuse to acknowledge the changes that are needed.

1st of all those who argue that nothing is wrong with Tibet and that the Lama is a separatist who looks to divide China needs to put down their crack pipes and look at the issue clearly. The great Lama is a spiritual leader that is important to all native Tibetan people, and the fact that he is now seen as a political leader is caused by the very doing of the Chinese government. Who, ironically with fears of a religion that calls for the peace and harmony of all, tries to micromanage all aspects of our religion and make changes that they feel is "modern" such as dividing and handout lands that belong to our places of worship and places of peaceful worship. And they send "religious" officials from Beijing or some other East coast modern cities, who honestly have no idea of our religion and which in turn creates many misunderstandings and conflict from it.

The protests for these freedoms that started this, was suppose to be a peaceful affair, suppose to bring light to these situation with the
closeness of the upcoming Olympics so the government can bring changes. Yet these peaceful protest turned into riots, and destruction of many people's homes and business. The violence was not a result of those of us who wished for more religious freedoms, but by those who are poor, who can not afford food and such things due to the price of inflation by the fast growing Chinese economy. So instead of what is suppose to be peaceful call for more religious freedom turned into the chaos that you saw on TV. All this came from great social divide of the rich and poor created by the Chinese government's economic program that simply have no respect and care for those who are not wealthy.


2ndly The media and so called "activists" in the west really needs to shut their mouth, instead of learning our history and find out what we need and call for. These mindless fools, who have never set foot on Tibetan soil blindly follow others in protests to "Free Tibet".

Tibet IS a part of China, that is something that my people have come to live with and agree with a long time ago. We call for a special state within China where we are allowed to manage our own cultural and religious affairs, and return the Lama to his true rule, to guide my people in our worship.

We do not want separation from China, simply because Tibet will not survive without a massive aid, from food and power, to services provided by the Chinese government. Those who have not been to Tibet only sees the post card of our majestic temples and breathtakingly beautiful mountain views, do not see the other parts of Tibet outside of Lhasa. Which is vast rocky wasteland, where few things grow, where the thing that we can grow is small patches of crops that is only enough to feed a few not to make a living out of.

The Chinese government, despite their arrogance and refusal to cooperate and dialog, has brought a economical system to Tibet. They built schools, hospitals, transportation, and most importantly created a steady stream of tourists from all over china to which we have made a living off. We now have power and running water, which my grandparents never had. In fact my father was one of the first group of Tibetans to be educated in the schools built by the Chinese government and he now makes a very comfortable for one of the
largest oil companies in the world because of it, not bad for a son of a
old fashioned blacksmith.

We have no oil, little valuable minerals and raw materials to which we can trade, only small patches of semi futile land for subsistence farming, and
small pastures that can support the little flocks of yaks and goats that
will survive in such barren lands. And the only thing that is keeping us
afloat is our connection with the rest of China.

The Chinese economy, despite the great social gap it has created, has made our living conditions better than those of our ancestors. Something that I do not believe could have happened without the intervention of the Chinese. So despite the bad things that came along with such intervention, a lot of good things did arise from it.

So please next time you guys try to argue "for Tibetan freedom" or "nothing is wrong with Tibet", please think of us Tibetans please first. Because is because of such misunderstandings and refusal of cooperation and dialog that we came to this point in our history.

Stuck in the middle between China's mindless quest for global dominance and the self righteous fools in western nations and mobs of "Tibetan separatists" who have never set foot on our land is those of us who was born and raised there, and have family there still having to live with such affairs.

Because in the end everyone have their own agenda, and nobody have a real about the real issue. And us Tibetans have to live with this tragic reminder everyday.
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 樓主| 中國情深 發表於 2008-4-15 08:46 | 只看該作者
藏青會聯絡秘書長:我們與達賴喇嘛無關
-- 2008年4月3日23:9:14(京港台時間) --多維新聞網

《亞洲周刊》紀碩鳴/貢秋雅沛表示,「藏青會與達賴喇嘛的政治訴求南轅北轍,藏人臨死時喊的是西藏獨立,我們有義務貫徹下去」。()

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三月下旬,印度烈日炎炎,上百流亡印度的藏民聚集在位於印度議會前的簡法瑪塔街,頂著炎熱不斷呼喊口號,還有部分人絕食抗議。這條街是印度集會抗議、表達意見的民主陣地。自三月十四日起,一些流亡藏民聚集在此,聲援西藏境內與當局抗爭的藏民。西藏青年會聯絡秘書長貢秋雅沛接受亞洲周刊訪問時表示,這裡的活動由藏青會和婦女會等推動,要求釋放被關押的藏人、停止鎮壓等各種訴求。()

示威人數最多的是二十五日,簡法瑪塔街上聚集了四千多流亡藏人。貢秋雅沛說,他們要求:漢藏要通過和談解決問題;停止鎮壓西藏境內的僧侶和藏人,給受傷者醫療;釋放班禪喇嘛。()

藏青會開宗明義號召西藏獨立,並不排斥非暴力以外的任何方式,所以每當有重大事件發生,藏青會都會在世界各地展開激烈的活動,甚至有衝擊中國駐外使館的舉動。()

不過,北京指達賴集團策劃中國藏族居住區的暴亂,貢秋雅沛卻否認藏青會參與其中:「如果我們有能力,也做了此事,我們會承擔,並為之驕傲。很遺憾,我們沒有這份榮耀,因為藏青會成員都列入黑名單,我們有想法和動機,但進不去。」()

貢秋雅沛指,五九年開始至今,西藏境內的抗議活動不斷,從來就沒有停止過,「在藏青會成立之前就有,文革中也有,每年類似的抗議活動都會有,只是規模有所不同」。他認為:「如果這次事件是由達賴喇嘛策劃或挑動,那麽,拉薩街頭的示威者應該叫喊『中間道路』,而不是喊『西藏獨立』,可見『中間道路』並不那麽受支持,藏青會才真正代表西藏民眾的利益。」()

藏青會有三萬五千多成員,四十多個國家有分會,成立於一九七零年十月七日,因為這天是解放軍當年首次進藏的日子。在將近十四萬的流亡藏人中,藏青會是最大的群眾團體。去年九月,新一屆藏青會成立,繼續堅持西藏獨立的訴求,貢秋雅沛強調,藏青會章程規定領導層三年一輪,但宗旨不會改變,「而近期的訴求一是堅持西藏獨立,二是抵制北京奧運」。他表示,達賴喇嘛和藏青會的政治訴求南轅北轍,沒有任何關係,達賴喇嘛主張中間道路,一九九二年經過公投已得到支持。()

不過,貢秋雅沛指出,藏人與中間道路曾經有過蜜月期,一九九九至二零零零年時最受歡迎:「藏青會曾似變為流亡藏人的死敵,成員走在街上都被人罵,但最終西藏人民還是看到我們是維護西藏利益的,現在我們變得受歡迎了。」()

在政治理念上,藏青會與達賴喇嘛不同,但貢秋雅沛承認達賴喇嘛有影響力:「達賴喇嘛在世,不管他是否真是政教領袖,但總是我們的上司,我們會克制,儘可能不使用暴力。其實,我們中的很多人都非常激進,甚至不惜用生命去捍衛自己的主張。」()

三月十七日,達賴喇嘛接見一些流亡西藏人組織的領導者時,貢秋雅沛也在場,他說,達賴喇嘛講了很多,但主題就一個,勸他們停止徒步返西藏的活動,指出這活動對奧運有負面影響,因為不僅中國,印度亦給予很大壓力。在勸導下,五個團體組織的徒步返西藏活動,第一站徒步到德里,但藏青會表示不能起到抵制奧運的作用退出了。貢秋雅沛表示,達賴喇嘛只是呼籲,並不是命令,「他把民主賜給我們,我們就可以自己去作出選擇」。對達賴喇嘛,貢秋雅沛表示絕對忠誠和敬仰,甚至可以用生命作出承諾,「這無可置疑,但從政治立場和組織立場上講,我不能接受,境內藏人臨死時,喊的是西藏獨立,我們有義務貫徹下去」。()

貢秋雅沛是德里大學政治學碩士畢業,在學生時代加入藏青會,本屆大會選他為十個常委之一,目前專職藏青會的工作。每次重要的示威抗議活動他都會出現,不僅要協調,還要解救那些被控觸犯法律的藏青會成員。■
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記憶之門 發表於 2008-4-15 18:20 | 只看該作者
為他開脫罷了,搞政治的誰不會玩這招啊????
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