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cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-9-29 11:44 | 只看該作者 回帖獎勵 |倒序瀏覽 |閱讀模式
Recently I have been working at a CD packing factory. Actually I have been there for only one week. I was introduced by a career agency. As you know, the agency charged me 10 percent of the first month payment.

There are lots of Chinese people introduced by the same  Chinese agency. later on I found lots of people work no longer than one month ( just after the agency gets the money), the boss ask them to leave; however, the factory still hire new employees (introduced by the same agency) every day. So we thought the factory colludes with the career agency. Aren't they (agency) too wicked to the compatrot? Isn't the boss or superintendend too villainous as well? Now I understand why the traitor come from chinese! so if you are in this situation, what will you do? Do we have some place to appeal them?

The following is a simple example what I noticed in the factory.
Most of our work is done by assembly line.The old employees don't like you, (which means you are not so smart, actually some people need more time to get familar with the new environment), then ask you to do very important work such as check the products, they trick you and try you out ; they intend to miss something and see if you check it out or not, if you forgot to check (because it is too fast, you have more things to do rather than check), then they tell the supervisor,  I have a friend, she was in such an situation, and the supervisor came over and  said to her, " other people said you didn't check, did you?" because of  language barrier, she didn't say anything, then change another person to do her work. The next day no more her to work...
Life is so cruel...

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Adelyn 發表於 2005-9-29 12:02 | 只看該作者
mingyu73,

i am not sure where this factory is located. if it is located in the United States, you'll have a case. just pull out your yellow book and go to the Attorney's pages, find a labor law attorney and call him/her. you have no language barrier so you can tell all that is happening there. these lawyers are bloodhounds. you can count on their judgments.

good luck!
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zzyzx 發表於 2005-9-30 00:48 | 只看該作者
I don't feel comfortable with any comments I can make before knowing where you are, but the bottom line is this is not a job you like, so leave there and find a better one.
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-9-30 09:20 | 只看該作者
Sorry, I forgot to tell you guys I am in Toronto. The CD Factory is close to Dufferin & Eglinton.  Before you go to the factory, be careful and not be cheated!
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Adelyn 發表於 2005-9-30 10:24 | 只看該作者
i'd like to be "cheated." i'll have a case then.
never mind, just kidding!
i think it's a better option to find another job and leave the place.
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zzyzx 發表於 2005-10-1 01:06 | 只看該作者
Mingyu,

I believe you need the job to support you and your family. Please concentrate your efforts on the daily tasks you have at work and meanwhile look for a job interesting and fitting you. There are more opportunities for you to succeed with your career. As always, it's hard to get started in a new environment and make senior co-workers pay respect to rookies. From what I understand, you may kick them out someday because your boss will keep the people on lower pay scales for the same work all of you can do.
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-1 11:46 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=Adelyn]mingyu73,

i am not sure where this factory is located. if it is located in the United States, you'll have a case. just pull out your yellow book and go to the Attorney's pages, find a labor law attorney and call him/her. you have no language barrier so you can tell all that is happening there. these lawyers are bloodhounds. you can count on their judgments.

good luck!
^_^[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your recommendtion and encouragement. I will try my best not to let their intrigue succeed.  By the way, I am in Toronto; I believe there is the same law as in USA in some aspects.
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-1 11:54 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=zzyzx]I don't feel comfortable with any comments I can make before knowing where you are, but the bottom line is this is not a job you like, so leave there and find a better one.[/QUOTE]
You are very right. I really don't like this job. However, since I know this kind of situation, I have to care what happend; I don't want more viticms like me. One reason I wrote this is  to warn the job seekers to be careful and void cheating. At the same time I will seek a way to protect our rights of us immigrants. I think unity is power. As we know, Life is not easy anywhere;but I think people who are capable can live anywhere.
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-1 12:00 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=Adelyn]i'd like to be "cheated." i'll have a case then.
never mind, just kidding!
i think it's a better option to find another job and leave the place.[/QUOTE]
If like you said, I just elude the situation. That's not my porpose. Frankly it is very easy for me to find this kind of job. The only thing is that I am very angry how could this happen year after year ( because some people told me they did that many years before). If we didn't take some actions, this will keep going and going... then more viticms.
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-1 12:19 | 只看該作者
[QUOTE=zzyzx]Mingyu,

I believe you need the job to support you and your family. Please concentrate your efforts on the daily tasks you have at work and meanwhile look for a job interesting and fitting you. There are more opportunities for you to succeed with your career. As always, it's hard to get started in a new environment and make senior co-workers pay respect to rookies. From what I understand, you may kick them out someday because your boss will keep the people on lower pay scales for the same work all of you can do.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I am mad at two things; one is the relationship between the agency and factory, which hurt many people; the other is that the attitudes of the old employees to new ones ( I know every company or factory is the same thing). But anyway, I think it is not right. People's jobs are not very stable. Suppose what if one day you are the new one?
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zzyzx 發表於 2005-10-1 13:31 | 只看該作者
I just tried to help. Hope you will find the best solution.
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-1 18:44 | 只看該作者
Thanks for all the comments you guys made . I really apprecaite you guys enthusiastic participation.
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Adelyn 發表於 2005-10-2 04:39 | 只看該作者

just for your reference

mingyu73, i've thought about it. if you decide to go after them, you will need a legal consultant who can work on contingency. for this, you must call several law offices to try out. listen very carefully when you talk with a lawyer. what the questions he asks and what seems to interest him most. often a lawyer may think differently than we usually do and his approach to the issue as well. before finishing the conversation, don't forget to ask his experience in similar cases (for instance how many such cases he has handled). then choose one your gut feeling tells you would be most likely to help you win.
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-2 05:11 | 只看該作者
Thanks for the detail information. I will do what you said.  Thanks for your earnest support for me once again!!
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-6 13:05 | 只看該作者
Hi, guys, now this company employs more people, now some people have to leave only after 2-3 days. But still more coming... How could this happen day after day? Time to take some actions!
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Adelyn 發表於 2005-10-6 13:26 | 只看該作者
hi, have you had a chance to discuss this matter over with a legal expert?
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-6 13:30 | 只看該作者
Not yet, I'd plan to; However, as a mother of 2 young kids, I am so busy; I have to support my family, meanwhile I need to take good care of my kids; I wish I could have more time to deal with that.
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Adelyn 發表於 2005-10-6 13:53 | 只看該作者
I am not sure what else i can do to help. as far as i know, it needs a couple phone calls to local law offices that handle labor dispute cases or the sort of. even if you are not going to hire a lawyer or convince him to work on contingency for you, you still can learn from the conversations you initiated. for example, the lawyers you talk to may give you some suggestions as how to strengthen your position in a formal or informal negotiation with your employer. anyway, as long as the first time call to a law office is free, you won't lose anything except some time. let alone it may give you some real advantage...
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-10-7 23:12 | 只看該作者
Thank you so so much. Now new problem emergened: Thanksgiving is coming, suddenly the manager told us no work, so everybody had to stay at home on Friday an
Tuesday we need to call him to check Whether there is work or not. I have a co-worker, she told me the same happened before Labour day. I wonder in what kind of situation we can get statutory holiday pay, because some people told me in some companies if you didn't work the day before statutory holiday, they wouldn't pay you for the holiday. If like that, our company is too bad- taking this kind of step to avoid paying us for holiday. I feel so indigant...
Capitalist is so cruel and tricky...

I feel myself so small and helpless...
Unity is power. We need unity, everybody, especially those who work in this company.
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Adelyn 發表於 2005-10-8 02:38 | 只看該作者
i believe you need a face-to-face talk with a law expert. and you can use this suspicious statutory-pay-avoidance trick as another evidence. the first thirty minutes or so of the talk can be free of charge (as the lawyer also needs time to learn your case). here, i would say KNOWLEDGE is power, that you need to equipt yourself with some necessary knowledge! for example, if you can prove the company has a history of behavior like this (which is termed a pattern of similar behaviors), you literally put them in an awkward position for defence. even if what you have had now is not sufficient to get them in jail, i am pretty sure at least you can use it as a token to negotiate for a better holiday pay.
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