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標題: 有個問題一直想問,斗膽問:基督徒們看不看XXX電影?為什麼? [列印本頁]

作者: hellman 時間: 2010-8-18 22:15
標題: 有個問題一直想問,斗膽問:基督徒們看不看XXX電影?為什麼?
有個問題一直想問,斗膽問:基督徒們看不看XXX電影?為什麼?
這個問題到了基督家園肯定會被刪. 基督徒們也不敢討論.

作者: 匿名 時間: 2010-8-18 23:04
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不能看，基督徒即使看了一個女人感覺到這女人身材很棒，就算是犯姦淫了。

作者: hellman 時間: 2010-8-18 23:54

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不能看，基督徒即使看了一個女人感覺到這女人身材很棒，就算是犯姦淫了。
Guest from 98.169.18.x 發表於 2010-8-18 23:04

這個姦淫概念幸虧不是法律術語,否則我天天都會被警察抓.
我就愛看苗條淑女.

作者: sousuo 時間: 2010-8-19 00:01
大家自說自話好象很有意思的呀

作者: 在美一方 時間: 2010-8-19 01:01
這是我在家園裡回sousuo的，搬出來，畢竟我不在教堂里評論基督教和基督徒。

XXX的看與不看真的跟是否基督徒有關嗎？
sousuo 發表於 2010-8-19 00:31

XXX的看與不看和個人喜好有關，與是不是基督徒無關。但是，基督徒該不該看，卻與是否遵循耶穌的教導有關。我可不覺得貌似正義地把like老兄的問題打成無聊就萬事大吉了

作者: sousuo 時間: 2010-8-19 01:23
回復 5# 在美一方

問題可能不無聊，但提問的方式就確確實實地透著那麼一點，以前他好象還好一點。

作者: hellman 時間: 2010-8-19 03:16
http://www.sexinchrist.com/index.html

作者: 匿名 時間: 2010-8-19 03:40
耶了個穌的，你這不是難為基督徒么？？

作者: 嘁哩喀喳 時間: 2010-8-19 03:51

hellman 發表於 2010-8-19 03:16

作者: 在美一方 時間: 2010-8-19 03:52

回復 9# 嘁哩喀喳

作者: 嘁哩喀喳 時間: 2010-8-19 03:53
別說看XXX了，基督徒們什麼壞事不做？幹完了壞事，懺悔一下就行了嘛 ---
耶大牛皮的「寶血」在那裡擺著呢，除了「褻瀆聖靈」，有什麼「罪」不能洗乾淨？

很簡單的問題，被大家搞得很複雜的樣子。

作者: 嘁哩喀喳 時間: 2010-8-19 03:55

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在美一方發表於 2010-8-19 03:52

好久不見，在美還是這麼暴力。

作者: 在美一方 時間: 2010-8-19 06:28
回復 12# 嘁哩喀喳

就對你暴力，對別人我穩油著呢

作者: 匿名 時間: 2010-8-19 07:53

耶了個穌的，你這不是難為基督徒么？？
Guest from 82.47.84.x 發表於 2010-8-19 03:40

因為是難點才討論,劃清界限,否則稀里糊塗犯了教規,下了地獄還不知道為什麼.

作者: 無限還原 時間: 2010-8-19 10:17
我想基督徒只能看聖經里的亂倫。。。
故事裡，食之回味。

作者: 無限還原 時間: 2010-8-19 10:19
我想基督徒只能看聖經里的亂倫。。。
故事裡，食之回味。

作者: ldai 時間: 2010-8-19 15:16
沒事偷著看，自娛自樂唄。

作者: hellman 時間: 2010-8-19 21:16
我們應該進一步討論劃清界限的問題.搞清楚什麼是應該的什麼是不應該的-什麼是
神允許的什麼是神不允許的.這樣就可以避免罪, 避免下地獄.
前面給的英文網討論了具體的情況,什麼情況是罪,什麼情況不是. 比如和老婆一起
看,就不是罪.......還有性交的問題,基督教肯定不反對夫妻性生活,但是堅決反對
同性戀. 除了這兩條,還有中間情況,基督教主張怎麼作? 比如口交, 肛交是同性戀
的東西,異性也作,如果夫妻這樣作聖經會不會說要用石頭打死? 劃清了界限,才能遵
守戒命,不犯罪. 這個英文網劃定的界限很符合基督教原則. 有人不同意這是基督教
網頁,那麼基督教如何看待這些問題?
(別說我討論的太具體,基督教聖經本來就描述的很詳細,管的很寬,如果沒有行為細
則,免不了無意之中下地獄).

http://www.sexinchrist.com/pornography.html

作者: 匿名 時間: 2010-8-20 15:20
食色，性也。

* March, 2007: At a small Christian conference in Austria, 75% of the 25 men in attendance admitted to being involved with porn; 50% within the past 6 months.

* April 6, 2007: 70% of Christians admitted to struggling with porn in their daily lives. From a non-scientific poll taken by XXXChurch, as reported by CNN.

* August 7,2006: 50% of all Christian men and 20% of all Christian women are addicted to pornography. 60% of the women who answered the survey admitted to having significant struggles with lust; 40% admitted to being involved in sexual sin in the past year; and 20% of the church-going female participants struggle with looking at pornography on an ongoing basis.

From the results of a ChristiaNet poll reported by Marketwire.com

* In 2000 Christianity Today survey, 33% of clergy admitted to having visited a sexually explicit Web site. Of those who had visited a porn site, 53% had visited such sites 「a few times」 in the past year, and 18% visit sexually explicit sites between a couple of times a month and more than once a week.

* Out of 81 pastors surveyed (74 males 7 female), 98% had been exposed to porn; 43% intentionally accessed a sexually explicit website

National Coalition survey of pastors. Seattle. April 2000.

* In his book, "Men's Secret Wars", Patrick Means reveals a confidential survey of evangelical pastors and church lay leaders. Sixty-four percent of these Christian leaders confirm that they are struggling with sexual addiction or sexual compulsion including, but not limited to use of pornography, compulsive masturbation, or other secret sexual activity.

* In March of 2002 Rick Warren』s (author of the Purpose Driven life) Pastors.com website conducted a survey on porn use of 1351 pastors: 54% of the pastors had viewed Internet pornography within the last year, and 30% of these had visited within the last 30 days.

* 47% percent of families said pornography is a problem in their home.

Focus on the Family Poll, October 1, 2003.

I had a hard time believing that half the men in the church would really be accessing porn, so early 2004 I asked the church where we attended at the time if they would be willing to take a survey. They agreed, and in the survey we asked the men "when was the last time you looked at pornography?" The church was made up mostly of young families, and the idea that many of the husbands and fathers I sat next to every Sunday were dabbling in porn... I couldn't comprehend it. Surely, I thought, the numbers would be lower. It can't be half, not in my church.
Of those who responded, here's what came back:
25% had viewed porn within the past month
44% within the past 6 months
61% within the past year

作者: hellman 時間: 2010-8-20 22:24

食色，性也。

* March, 2007: At a small Christian conference in Austria, 75% of the 25 men in atte ...
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作者: huasendg 時間: 2010-8-22 15:47
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這個問題到了基督家園肯定會被刪. 基督徒們也不敢討論.hellman 發表

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