我的神, 我的神, 為什麼離棄我?

沒完沒了,
    First of all, I need to tell you that I am writing in English because I don't have Chinese software to write Chinese. Hope this is ok with you. Secondly, I want to tell you that you asked a very good question. The answer to this question is essential for us to know the purpose of the Lord's first coming to the earth as the son of man, and to know God's salvation to us. Regarding your question "是神暫時離開他嗎?", the answer is absolutely YES. God the Father left the Lord for three hours before He died on the cross.
   Lord Jesus was on the cross for a total of 6 hours, from 9:00AM to 3:00 PM. From the recording in the Bible, these 6 hours can be divided into two halves. From 9:00AM to 12:00 PM, the Lord was on the cross and humiliated, killed, by human beings, even by one of the two criminals who were crucified with Him. (馬太福音27:33-44). (Even today this is so true. We have people full of sins, but they still laugh at the Lord and at His words and make all kinds of disrespectful comments about the Lord, to say the least.) During the second half, the Lord was judged and forsaken (所審並棄絕, or 離棄) by God the Father. During these three hours, our Lord took all the sins in this earth, past, present, and the future. Read the following excerpt in Chinese. Hope it will help you understand better.
祂在十字架上受苦六小時。前三小時，祂是為著遵行神的旨意，被人迫害；後三小時，祂是為我們完成救贖，受神審判。在這段時間內，神算祂為我們的罪，替我們受痛苦。（賽五三10。）因此，遍地都黑暗了，（馬太福音27:45，）因為我們的罪性、罪行、和一切消極的事物，都在那裡受了對付；神也因著我們的罪棄絕了祂。（馬太福音27:46。）
Crucifixion is only one of the processes our Lord Jesus went through as planned by the Father for our salvation. By this process, the Lord died on our behalf, He paid the debt we own God (our debt to God is death.) The Lord died for us, so that we can live if we join with Him by believing into Him. What kind of love, what kind of salvation!
The processes the Lord has gone through for our salvation: incarnation(成為肉體), human living(人性生活), crucifixion(釘十字架), resurrection(復活), ascension(升天), dissension. He is the life-giving Spirit now. Read 林前  15:
15:45 經上也是這樣記著：「首先的人亞當成了活的魂；」末後的亞當成了賜生命的靈。 "

沒完沒了, I wonder if you have accepted the Lord Jesus as your life. If you have, hallelujah! Continue to receive His dispensing of life to you. If you have not yet, don』t waste any time to receive Him.
Before I finish, I would like to give you Romans 5 to help you understand even better what the Lord has done by His death. You really need to read the whole book of Romans. It is not easy to understand, but if you really want to get into it, there are some good references you can go to.

5:1 所以，我們既本於信得稱義，就藉著我們的主耶穌基督，對神有了和平。
5:2 我們又藉著祂，因信得進入現在所站的這恩典中，並且因盼望神的榮耀而誇耀。
5:3 不但如此，就是在患難中，我們也是誇耀，因為知道患難生忍耐，
5:4 忍耐生老練，老練生盼望，
5:5 盼望不至於蒙羞；因為神的愛已經藉著所賜給我們的聖靈，澆灌在我們心裡。
5:6 因我們還軟弱的時候，基督就照所定的時期為不虔者死了。
5:7 為義人死，是少有的；為仁人死，或者有敢作的；
5:8 惟有基督在我們還作罪人的時候，為我們死，神就在此將祂自己的愛向我們顯明了。
5:9 現在我們既因祂的血得稱義，就更要藉著祂得救脫離忿怒。
5:10 因為我們作仇敵的時候，且藉著神兒子的死得與神和好，既已和好，就更要在祂的4生命裡得救了。
5:11 不但如此，我們現今既藉著我們的主耶穌基督，得與神和好，也就要藉著祂，在神裡面誇耀著，在祂的生命裡得救了。
5:12 這就如罪是藉著一人入了世界，死又是藉著罪來的，於是4死就遍及眾人，因為眾人都犯了罪。
5:13 沒有律法之先，罪已經在世上；但沒有律法，罪也不算在賬上。
5:14 然而從亞當到摩西，死就作了王，連那些不照亞當過犯樣式犯罪的，也在牠的權下；亞當乃是那以後要來者的豫像。
5:15 只是過犯不如恩賜；若因一人的過犯，多人都死了，神的恩典，與耶穌基督一人恩典中白白的恩賜，就更加洋溢的臨到多人。
5:16 並且一人犯罪的結果，也不如白白的恩賜；因為審判是由於一次過犯2而定罪，恩賜乃是由於許多過犯2而稱義。
5:17 若因一人的過犯，死就藉著這一人作了王，那些受洋溢之恩，並洋溢之義恩賜的，就更要藉著耶穌基督一人，在生命中作王了。
5:18 如此說來，藉著一次的過犯，眾人都1被定罪，照樣，藉著一次的義行，眾人也都被稱義得4生命了。
5:19 藉著一人的悖逆，多人構成了罪人，照樣，藉著一人的順從，多人也要1構成義的了。
5:20 律法插進來，是叫過犯增多，只是罪在那裡增多，恩典就更洋溢了，
5:21 使罪怎樣在死中作王，恩典也照樣藉著義作王，叫人藉著我們的主耶穌基督得永遠的生命。

回復 拎不清 58樓 的帖子

That is a very good question. To have answer to this question, we need to look at the verses before , Romans 5:12-13. It says : "這就如罪是藉著一人入了世界，死又是藉著罪來的，於是死就遍及眾人，因為眾人都犯了罪。沒有律法之先，罪已經在世上；但沒有律法，罪也不算在賬上。". Verse 14 dose not mean only during time of Adam to Moses death reigned (死就作了王). It means before Moses, death had already reigned since Adam's time.
Time can be divided into the following period, the past eternity (Before Adam), the age before the law (From Adam to Moses), the age of law (from Moses to the Lord Jesus), the age of grace (from the Lord Jesus to his second coming back, which is now), the kingdom age (the millennium), and the future eternity.
To understand why Paul said "...從亞當到摩西，死就作了王", we need to pay attention to the linking words "然而". The whole verse reads: "然而從亞當到摩西，死就作了王...". This means death has been the king even before Moses, who received the law from God and beginning with him a new age started.
What caused death? it is sin. As it says in the Bible: "the wages of sin is sin." Therefore, sin and death are linked together. Even though sin had been there since Adam, it was not exposed until the law came through Moses. God gave the laws not to let His people to obide by, but to expose them of their sins. Without law sins can not be exposed. Since law started with Moses, Paul was telling us through verses 5:12-14 that sin had been there since Adam before the law to expose it.
There are so many things on issue I can say. If you are seeking the truth, read the whole book of Romans. It is not easy to understand. There are some good references if you want to go to.
Anyone who wants to understand the Bible and see the truth mush come to his/her spirit. Unfortunately many people, even believers, did not know, or did not agree that God made a spirit in each of us. It is completed separated from our soul. Our spirit is the special organ for us to fellowship with God. It has three functions, conscience, intuition and fellowship with God. When a person's spirit died, this person is dead. When Adam ate from the tree from the knowledge of good and evil, his spirit died and lost fellowship with God. His physical body, which was created by God, became flesh, and eventually died also.
On this topic, we need to know the three lives and four laws to better understand sin and death, grace and eternal life and why we need to receive the Lord to be released from the reigning of death and to have joy and peace in the kingdom of God.
Three lives are:
our physical life, in Greek is bios.
Our soul life, in Greek is Psuche, and
eternal life from God, Zoe. This word only exists in Greek. This may be why the new testament of the Bible were written in Greek.

Four laws are:
outside law (every country, state, has their own laws) 律法,
the law of trying to be good and do good things 心思中善的律, which was put in us by God when we were first created,
the law of sin and death 罪與死的律, which is Satan and entered into man through the fruit of the knowledge, and last
the law of the Spirit of life 生命之靈的律, which is God himself.

Come to your spirit, read Romans chapters 5-8.

回復 拎不清 60樓 的帖子

Then I will respond to your question for the last time. This time you may be disappointed.
Seeing all the comments you made and the questions you asked, I think I have a very good and clear picture of what kind person you. You often remind me of a scene in the Broadway musical "The King and I". When the English teacher come to the palace of the king of Siam to teach the royal children, the king was trying to test the teacher by asking her to calculate how many children he has and how many grand children he has. After answering a few of his questions, the teacher stopped and did not answer any more. The king thought his questions were too difficult that she could not answer, and he made quite a show in front of his children. The children also laugh with him because they truely believe their father is much smarter than the new teacher.  It is very amusing.
Having sin does not mean we can not overcome. Becasue we have sin, that is why we need the blood of the Lord to cleanse our sin. The Lord has paid the price for those who believe into Him. Not only 以利亞 did not die, none of the believers will die. When they die, they only sleep. One day they will be resurrected. He was not the only one who was raptured before physical death. If any one will live a life like 以利亞 and let the Lord to work in him/her and to cleans his/her sins and fill him/her with God like 以利亞  did, then this person will be raptured before physical death. Apparently you were too busy finding new questions to ask like the king I mentioned but did not think anything about he three lives and four laws. Believers have the law of the Spirit of life operating in us. This law is more powerful and will defeat the law of sin and death. Our natural being, sin and death, Satan, self.., all the negative things have been terminated by the Lord Jesus on the cross. If we join with Him, all He has accomplished will become reality to us.  If you do the same, you can be like 以利亞, too. Unfortunately, you have not even seen the way yet because your eyes are still covered by Satan.
    I did not answer your questions for yourself because I don't want to be part of the game you have been playing in this forum. I think among all the readers there must be some real seeking ones. They seek the truth but can not find much here. I do my part to let the truth out so that any one who seeks will see.
    Before I finish, let me give you a few more verses so that you will (at least I hope you will) understand why I will not entertain any of your future questions.

馬太福音 第 七 章
7:6 不要把聖物給狗，也不要把你們的珍珠丟在豬前，免得牠們用腳踐踏珍珠，並且轉過來撕裂你們。
7:7 求，就給你們；尋找，就尋見；叩門，就給你們開門。
7:8 因為凡求的，就得著；尋找的，就尋見；叩門的，就給他開門。