基因圖表明，漢人的血統高度純正。轉帖

基因圖表明，漢人的血統高度純正。
「純種漢族人已不存在」文章作者謝小冬資料：hui族，蘭州大學副教授
此人研究方向是「少數民族遺傳學」（請問漢族在他的研究範圍之內嗎？）此人此番結論多刊載於國內報紙新聞網頁上，其自稱通過DNA得出這一結論，但又沒有拿出真憑實據。

而復旦大學「金力教授」的DNA研究結果表明漢人的血統非常之純正，尤其是父系血統相似高達90%以上，其研究成果登載於英國《自然》雜誌，兵得到全世界一致認同！

下面結合國內外專家學者廣泛取樣以後的DNA研究報告。


不是搞分裂，只是要漢族人知道自己的事情。





漢人的父系血統高度統一

圖片出自American Journal of Human Genetics（美國人類遺傳學雜誌）
根據研究結果，漢人超過95%為M9型。
漢族中O3佔大多數，是世界上比較純的人種之一，是世界上公認的，漢族是壓倒性的O，其中以O3最多，佔大多數。  

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不知道M9和O3分別表示什麼含義？

強調漢族血統純正有意義嗎？會不會加速少數民族分裂？

你的邏輯不對，而且有嚴重的民族自卑感。漢族血統純不純和少數民族分列沒有直接的聯繫。

他們在中國享受比漢族還優等的待遇，漢族和政府又沒有迫害他們，反過來是他們有時欺負漢人，你去新疆看看就明白了。他們安居樂業地生活得好好的，為什麼要分裂出去。

最討厭這樣，把自己貶得很低。委曲求全，達賴不是照樣搞分裂。漢族現在還有什麼能代表自己的東西。

在中國，不是漢族同化別人，而是別人同化漢族。

純種漢族人已不存在」文章作者謝小冬資料：hui族，蘭州大學副教授

以前看到這個帖子，真的心裡很失落。原來這是騙人的，這個人在造謠，陰險用心。

所以轉這個新帖來更正，讓大家明白。

這種言論又是出於什麼目的呢!

不是打擊漢族，讓漢族失去凝聚力?!

[ 本帖最後由 macker2008 於 2008-6-16 00:41 編輯 ]

漢人居住的地區，極為廣泛，在這些地區中先後居住過的多少民族都被融化進去了，今天的漢人血統如何個「純正」法？跟哪一個時代比較？

從最近的說，滿清幾十萬人在17世紀開始移入漢人聚居區，漢人「闖關東」進入滿人聚居的今天的東三省。而今有多少人還能分清是祖上十幾代代人中無一人與漢人或其他人通婚的「純種」的旗人？東北有多沙漢人能上朔300年沒有與旗人、達弧爾（找不到那個正確的hu2 字）、赫哲人、朝鮮族人、。。。通過婚的？

再往上去，元代蒙古人統治中國，在全中國的範圍內留下了多少萬的蒙古人，現如今你在中國各地能找出幾個「純種」的、在當地居住了700年以上而且沒有任何一代人與漢人通婚的蒙古人？如果找不出來，那多少萬蒙古人如果不是與當地漢族等民族的人通婚、被同化了、成為了漢人的一部分，他們又去哪兒了？如今姓「欽」的」漢人「，祖上其實就是蒙族人。

再往上說，宋代在洛陽、西安等地曾有不少猶太人居住，人數多到需要建立自己不少的猶太教廟宇，8、9百年過去，歷史上並沒有中國人迫害猶太人的紀錄，也沒有任何猶太人大規模遷離中國的記載。但今天還有很多當地人（不是回民）保持著不吃豬肉等猶太習俗，但從長相、語言和其他習俗方面與漢人無異，填表時也歷來寫「漢族」，你能說他們不是漢人？

這種所謂「漢人血統高度純正」的「研究」，絲毫沒有積極意義。只能讓人想起要「保持純種雅利安人」的納粹。

原帖由 macker2008 於 2008-6-16 00:27 發表
你的邏輯不對，而且有嚴重的民族自卑感。漢族血統純不純和少數民族分列沒有直接的聯繫。

他們在中國享受比漢族還優等的待遇，漢族和政府又沒有迫害他們，反過來是他們有時欺負漢人，你去新疆看看就明白了。他們安 ...

這跟民族自卑感有什麼關係？你真會上綱上線！大家都是中華民族的一員，各自強調自己的血統純正有什麼意義？漢族在歷史上和其它民族有過多次的大融合，搞不懂這種所謂的血統純正有什麼意義。
今天你宣傳漢族血統純正，明天藏族宣傳他們和漢族基因高度不同，後天維族宣傳他們血統和土耳其人高度接近，這樣會出現什麼樣的結果？

原帖由 shanren 於 2008-6-16 01:08 發表
漢人居住的地區，極為廣泛，在這些地區中先後居住過的多少民族都被融化進去了，今天的漢人血統如何個「純正」法？跟哪一個時代比較？

從最近的說，滿清幾十萬人在17世紀開始移入漢人聚居區，漢人「闖關東」進入滿 ...

Most Chinese, mongolian, Korean and Japanese are TAGUS MOGOL people genetically! Parternal purify means that MOGLOIAN TAGUS PEOPLE were rulers of the world before, like most Europeans have MOGOLIAN blood, but not the other way around!

We TAGUS MONGOLIAN people are simply BETTER human beings than those white trash! Genghis KHAN had more than 18 million decendants mostly in Europe and Middle east!  Not even sigle WHITE male could have up to 1 million offersprings, not to say 18 million, our great Genghis KHAN had achieved! Because we MOGOLIAN TAGUS people conquered most part of  Europe, and fathered those children with WHITE WOMEN in those conquered countries! That's the only logic explanation!

So, it is IMPERATIVE for us to conquer EUROPE and the world AGAIN,  and to make all Europeans to carry our proud TAGUS MOGOLIAN gene, that way, the world is going to be a big family led and domniated by MOGOLIAN TAGUS people, no war any more! Finally peace achieved! Isn't that great?!  Let's shoot for it!!!

Hope the above can explain the research result!

[ 本帖最後由 mengjz 於 2008-6-17 00:30 編輯 ]

1。既然漢人、朝鮮人、日本人、蒙古人等都同屬 「tagus mongol」，又哪裡來的「漢人血統純正？？？」充其量只能說「 『tagus mogol』 人的血統純正」。

2。至於說哪一個人種比哪些人種優越，我看還是免了吧，免得尷尬。我們的祖先從幾大發明等方面來說確實有傲人的紀錄，但是祖宗越領先於當時的世界，越顯得後面的子孫不肖！現如今看看咱們周圍用的一切東西，幾乎100%都是西方在最近一二百年裡發明的。現在還成天吹噓「我們的祖宗多厲害」，真讓別人覺得中國人是九斤老太！

光著腳快追才是正道 -------- 等中國人發明了類似蒸汽機、電腦、互聯網、噴氣發動機等徹底改變了世界的東西，到那會兒再吹也來得及。

原帖由 shanren 於 2008-6-16 21:36 發表
1。既然漢人、朝鮮人、日本人、蒙古人等都同屬 「tagus mongol」，又哪裡來的「漢人血統純正？？？」充其量只能說「 『tagus mogol』 人的血統純正」。

2。至於說哪一個人種比哪些人種優越，我看還是免了吧，免得 ...

Study history a little bit more! You will learn that  HOW MUCH the western countries have benifited from Chinese inventions, GREAT MONGOLIAN destryed white trash EUROPEANS, and also transmitted our great inventions, not just the GREAT FOUR, to EUROPE, which had directly stimulated the WHITE TRASH EUROPEAN's INDUSTRY REVOULTION!

1). Aerospace without COMPASS, NO WHITE TRASH would have EVER been able to go ANYWHERE!
2). Without PRINTING and PAPER making, the European white trash would have never had modern UNIVERSITY and EDUCATION system!
3). Without FIRE POWDER, the Europeans would have never had MISSLEs, PLANEs and CANNONs!
4). Even the BINARY basic algorithsm for computer was from Chinese YIJING, and ABICUS!

Take the above away, ALL CREDITS of GREAT CHINESE MEN! how much the fucking WHITE TRASH Europeans could have  left for their own?  They stole all those from China, but never paid a penny license fee they owed to China and Chinese men!

The only thing China, and Chinese People lack is the KILLING INSTINCT and CONQUERING DESIRE! Had Chinese people had that kind  of COURAGE to kill, China would have conquered the whole world long time ago!

Some cheap Chinese women still like to kiss WHITE TRASH's EUROPEN MEN 's ASS, in MUSLISM or Arabic world, Hornour killing would have already eliminated those SHAMELESS and FACELESS CRAP!

So, please shut up!  All of the mordern WESTERN civilization are built on  GREAT ancient Chinese civilizations and achievements, only the damn Qing's CRAPPY Manchuao gave in all the great achievements the Han and Mongolian created! Shame on them!

I hope that you could have another 30 years to live, and then you will see HOW GREAT NORTHEASTERN ASIAN Tagus Mogolian Race to DESTROY all the white trash worldwide! And EVEN you can't help your WHITE TRASH MASTER! No one on this planet could stop GREAT Tagus people, a SIMPLY BETTER HUMAN BEING , THE ONLY CIVILIZATION  having been continuing for more than 5000 Years,  to CONQUER THE WORLD AGAIN!

All Northeastern Asians need is just to culture the best CONQUERING culture our great ancestor Genghis Khan and His Army used to have, that's all!




[ 本帖最後由 mengjz 於 2008-6-18 03:15 編輯 ]

「保持純種雅利安人」的納粹。 In reality 雅利安人 problebly are not 純種, they carry a BETTER blood, TAGUS MOGOLIAN! So, they do have the right to be proud, and that's why the GREAT DEUTSCH destroyed WHITE TRASH FRENCH, a lowest of low class of people totally lack of PROUD Tagus blood!

Nothing wrong for 「保持純種雅利安人」的納粹, at least they are decent HUMAN BEING, they don't PEE and SHIT everywhere like the fucking  doggy French do!



[ 本帖最後由 mengjz 於 2008-6-17 00:32 編輯 ]

不敢苟同。

「四大發明」：指南針和火藥，確實是中國人的發明。但是另外那兩樣，就不好說了：

1。紙：人類歷史上最早的紙，papyrus，是埃及人在5000年前（比蔡倫出生早3000年）發明的。但中國人的造紙術與印度發明的「阿拉伯數字」一樣，通過中東傳到歐洲，對歐洲文明的發展產生了巨大影響，這不假。算2/3個吧。

2。活字印刷術：中國人發明的時間比歐洲早很多，這不假。但是由於中國漢字本身的複雜性，常用字就有好幾千個，這一發明並沒有在中國真正大面積推廣開來，對中國文明的發展並沒有產生重大的影響，更沒有傳到歐洲去。歐洲的活字印刷機，是Gutenberg 在15世紀發明的，也沒有證據顯示 Gutenberg 在作出這一發明的過程中受到過中國活字印刷術的啟發。但由於羅馬語系/拉丁語系的語言總共就那麼些個字母加大小寫+標點符號，給印刷機配字母時只需要開幾十個模子來澆鑄字母， Gutenberg 的印刷術得以迅速在歐洲推廣，並對歐洲文明的發展產生極為重大的影響。

3。納粹「維持雅利安人種純潔性」的做法值得稱道？？？ 你給猶太人解釋你的「道理」去吧。也許你還認為日寇在中國還應該再多殺他幾個以才能建立真正的「大東亞共榮圈」？？？

[ 本帖最後由 shanren 於 2008-6-17 04:24 編輯 ]

原帖由 shanren 於 2008-6-17 04:22 發表
不敢苟同。

「四大發明」：指南針和火藥，確實是中國人的發明。但是另外那兩樣，就不好說了：

1。紙：人類歷史上最早的紙，papyrus，是埃及人在5000年前（比蔡倫出生早3000年）發明的。但中國人的造紙術與印度 ...

Please study the histories and effects of MONGOLIAN's INVASION and MUSLIAM's EXPANSION on European CIVILIZATION!

1). papyrus is a kind grass being spreaded and dried out, I still have paintings on them  we bought when we visited Egypt several years ago. Papyrus is really not real PAPER, having no manufacturing process associated with it! So, un-doubtfully , can't be called PAPER, only like ancient China's bamboo chops!  It is 100% Chinese paper making  helped the modern western paper making!

2). As for printing, even today's European mechnical printer still 100% use Chinese  word by word models, just they changed them into Alphabets!

As for any thing else, even the model of mechnical weaving machine was also copied the prototype from old China in Ming Dynasty!

Qing Manchu WAS really  BARBIC people,they occupied  Central China, and destroyed every thing already developed, including budding CAPITALISM in China! Qing was a really DARK, DULL, STUPID dynasty!  Queen ChiXi  was really the worst ruler China ever had,  A WITCHED BITCH! So China should NEVER be ruled by any woman!!!  The Greatest Chinese first lady  in history in reality was a RUSSIAN woman, Nikolai Vladimirovich Elizarov (Николай Владимирович Елизаров) Taiwan's 2nd president's wife, A GREAT LADY who had really MADE herself a GREAT MODLE for  all Chinese women from her time  and onward, and made all other former Chinese first ladies really CRAP!

All the glorious histories China have had ARE all made by Male Chinese!  

As for the NAZI, who cares, NAZI have never killed any Chinese or Northeastern Asian!  In reality, the DEUTSCHLAND is the only country really treat Northeastern Asians very decently in whole Western Europe! We are not JEWS! How people treat Jews has NOTHING to do with us! But we are TAGUS MONGOLIAN Northeastern Asians, How those white trash treat northeast Asian have 100% to do with us!

the French did kill lots of Chinese before, and the French also wanted to kill all Chinese, unfortunately, we are PHYSICALLY and MENTALLY better, the French didn't ACCOMPLISH their evil plan to destroy us. Now we are on top, we definitely should return the "FAVOUR" to them, 1.3 billion to CRUSH and CLEAN UP those 60 million CRAPs! To free that EXTREMLY beautiful land: FRANCE for better human being to live in, those who  are compatible with, and who deserve that piece of land!

RACISM has been forced upon us, when we play the same game, we are going to be the destroyer of those white trash worldwide! Just as simple as that! It's the "courtesy" we have to pay back  to those RACISM donors  AND Racist Eurpeans! Am I fair enough, using their methods to deal with them!

Anything can make China strong, United and be the leader again in the world  should be adopted! DEMOCRACY is great, if COMMUNISM can help us reach that goal, so be it!

As for anything concerning Japan, take them as DOMESTIC, we have the same GENETIC COMPOSITIONS, No RACISM involved!

We only need to KILL those RACISTS who want to destroy and kill great NORTHEASTERN ASIAN TAGUS MOGOLIAN PEOPLE, those racists are white trash French et al European CRAPs! In the whole Chinese recorded history, there have been so many killings, and we were not as civilized as now!  No any more killing between Northeastern Asians forever from now on! We have to unite to conquer and rule the world!


Thank you for your reply!


[ 本帖最後由 mengjz 於 2008-6-17 06:57 編輯 ]

before dicussing who created paper first,

we should give TWO term. definition
<paper> & <writing materials>

we also should distinguish btwn
"MADE OF" & "MADE FROM=make up",

as mentioned by <<mengjz 13rd fl>>,

"白楊樹皮" or "蘆韋葉"  can be used as <writing materials>...
but you should not call them as <paper>
even after special process or treatment...soften,polishing, wahsing/whiteness..

in American School text,  "moden paper"  came from Chinese;
no need to discuss who start to use <writing marials>...on bone, banboo, "白楊樹皮"...    by the way,  馬亞人, also have their own <writing materials>...

原帖由 pekinese 於 2008-6-17 06:12 發表
before dicussing who created paper first,

we should give TWO term. definition
&

we also should distinguish btwn
"MADE OF" & "MADE FROM=make up",

as mentioned by ,

"白楊樹皮" or "蘆韋 ...

這也就是地鐵小報的水平吧。拿個搶眼的話題招人。

文化認同不是比血統更重要麼？我血管里流的是中華的血。至少我自己這麼認為。這就夠了。就是你論證出我其實是個阿三來，除了讓我有點不快，也改變不了什麼。

我有一個朋友，父母都是投降中共的倭寇，用他自己的話說，就是 「日奸」。可他自己在中國老鄉家長大，一句倭話也不會說。後來父母從蘇聯洗了腦回來才團圓的。我問過他，自認是中國人還是日本人，他回答說，「那還用問？這兒長的，就是這兒的人。」

血統？小心讓老毛給你打一個反革命血統論的帽子。

我以所有對我重要的人的名義起

這也就是地鐵小報的水平吧。拿個搶眼的話題招人。

文化認同不是比血統更重要麼？我血管里流的是中華的血。至少我自己這麼認為。這就夠了。就是你論證出我其實是個阿三來，除了讓我有點不快，也改變不了什麼。

我有一個朋友，父母都是投降中共的倭寇，用他自己的話說，就是 「日奸」。可他自己在中國老鄉家長大，一句倭話也不會說。後來父母從蘇聯洗了腦回來才團圓的。我問過他，自認是中國人還是日本人，他回答說，「那還用問？這兒長的，就是這兒的人。」

血統？小心讓老毛給你打一個反革命血統論的帽子。

老兄所言極是。

都是中國人