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標題: 兩篇講述西藏真相的極有價值的好文！ [列印本頁]

作者: auck200 時間: 2008-4-14 22:18
標題: 兩篇講述西藏真相的極有價值的好文！
親愛的兄弟姐妹，4月13日悉尼的遊行聲勢壯觀，令人感動。激情過後，我們應該冷靜下來，用理性而策略的方式，以事實為依據，向西方人講述西藏騷亂的事實真相，揭露達賴的真面目以及他曾經統治下的舊西藏的殘酷。
有兩篇來自西方學者的中立而客觀的文章和報道，足以成為我們向西方人說明真相的有力依據。

文章一：
http://www.economist.com/world/a ... m?story_id=10875823
A week in Tibet Trashing the Beijing Road

文章二：

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html#notes
Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth

第一篇文章A week in Tibet是英國《經濟學人》雜誌的資深記者James Miles所寫。在3月14日騷亂髮生時，他是留在西藏的唯一一名西方記者。他的報道準確、客觀、專業，可以為西方人所廣泛接受。

4月13日悉尼遊行當天，一位同情藏獨的西方女士曾經和我們的遊行者辯論，該女士反問：「你們說西方媒體報道不實，可是你們的信息來源又來自哪裡？」我們的一位遊行者說：「我們的信息來自YouTube.」顯然，這樣的回答難以令人信服。
事實上，作為西方記者身份的James Miles 身臨其境的第一手描述，還原了西藏騷亂的本來面目，與許多虛假報道的西方媒體有本質區別。給西方人看「A week in Tibet」這篇文章，對澄清真相有很大幫助。

第二篇文章Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth 是美國獲獎作家 Dr. Michael Parenti 描述西藏農奴制度的專著，資料翔實，同樣是一篇嚴肅而專業的好文，有著很強的說服力。

誠如該文所寫：
「西方的新聞媒體、旅遊書籍、小說以及好萊塢電影，將西藏的僧侶政權塑造為名副其實的香格里拉。 …… 然而西藏的歷史卻描繪出不同的畫面。……」

文章列舉了大量的事實，勾畫出許多西方人眼中的那個所謂的香格里拉，原來是一個十分殘忍而不公平的社會。
達賴深諳包裝之術，也因此欺騙了不少善良的西方人。那些對他深信不疑的西方人，一直以為中國人侵佔了西藏，摧毀了原先西藏人的美麗、寧靜的生活，正是這種誤解，造成了他們對中國的敵視，對藏獨的同情。現在，到了戳穿達賴真正面目的時候了。而最好的撕下達賴偽裝的辦法，就是用西方人的研究成果，去向西方人訴說事實的真相！達賴會包裝，會用柔軟的身段，會說西方人愛聽的話。而我們，也應當以其人之道還治其人之身，要用西方人容易接受的方式，平心靜氣、有理有節地去對他們訴說達賴的真實面目，去告訴他們，他們所景仰的神權統治下的舊西藏，其實根本不是什麼香格里拉，而是一個完全違反人道的悲慘世界！
各位兄弟姐妹，我們不乏熱情，不乏衝冠一怒的吶喊，但我們更需要冷靜，更需要做大量的資料收集和理性訴求的工作，我們要讓西方社會更多地了解和接納我們的聲音！
為了我們的祖國，努力呀！

Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth 節選：

「In old Tibet there were small numbers of farmers who subsisted as a kind of free peasantry, and perhaps an additional 10,000 people who composed the 「middle-class」 families of merchants, shopkeepers, and small traders. Thousands of others were beggars. There also were slaves, usually domestic servants, who owned nothing. Their offspring were born into slavery. 15 The majority of the rural population were serfs. Treated little better than slaves, the serfs went without schooling or medical care, They were under a lifetime bond to work the lord's land--or the monastery』s land--without pay, to repair the lord's houses, transport his crops, and collect his firewood. They were also expected to provide carrying animals and transportation on demand.16 Their masters told them what crops to grow and what animals to raise. They could not get married without the consent of their lord or lama. And they might easily be separated from their families should their owners lease them out to work in a distant location. 17」

「In 1959, Anna Louise Strong visited an exhibition of torture equipment that had been used by the Tibetan overlords. There were handcuffs of all sizes, including small ones for children, and instruments for cutting off noses and ears, gouging out eyes, breaking off hands, and hamstringing legs. There were hot brands, whips, and special implements for disemboweling. The exhibition presented photographs and testimonies of victims who had been blinded or crippled or suffered amputations for thievery. There was the shepherd whose master owed him a reimbursement in yuan and wheat but refused to pay. So he took one of the master』s cows; for this he had his hands severed. Another herdsman, who opposed having his wife taken from him by his lord, had his hands broken off. There were pictures of Communist activists with noses and upper lips cut off, and a woman who was raped and then had her nose sliced away.23」

「Throughout the 1960s, the Tibetan exile community was secretly pocketing $1.7 million a year from the CIA, according to documents released by the State Department in 1998. Once this fact was publicized, the Dalai Lama』s organization itself issued a statement admitting that it had received millions of dollars from the CIA during the 1960s to send armed squads of exiles into Tibet to undermine the Maoist revolution. The Dalai Lama's annual payment from the CIA was $186,000.」

作者: auck200 時間: 2008-4-14 22:57
Trashing the Beijing Road
http://www.economist.com/world/a ... m?story_id=10875823

作者: lalacat 時間: 2008-4-14 23:16

作者: 我愛月季 時間: 2008-4-14 23:32
我給我一個朋友發英文的描述西藏歷史和事實的e-mail的時候就說，給老外做工作，完全可以不用中國政府的資料，就用西人自己的研究成果就可以。西藏的事情，本身並不複雜，西人中早就有正直的知識分子做出了一些研究。如果那些不明真相的老外，多動一點腦筋，多查看一些資料，多那麼思考一下，哪裡會讓藏獨騙得不知東南西北。

作者: rockdale606 時間: 2008-4-15 10:17
頂！

作者: snortbsd 時間: 2008-4-15 10:50

原帖由 我愛月季 於 2008-4-14 23:32 發表
我給我一個朋友發英文的描述西藏歷史和事實的e-mail的時候就說，給老外做工作，完全可以不用中國政府的資料，就用西人自己的研究成果就可以。西藏的事情，本身並不複雜，西人中早就有正直的知識分子做出了一些研 ...

you really need not to say anything except giving out the collections of URLs:

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html#notes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMvBXYRzAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTTpewnUGlo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVTiAO2nLg&feature=related
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/ful ... 3A05757C0A96E958260
http://www.cesnur.org/press/Newsweek.htm
http://www.tibet.com/dholgyal/CTA-book/chapter-5-1.html
http://www.dalailama.com/page.136.htm
http://www.amazon.com/review/pro ... mp;showViewpoints=1
http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/SDLE/Part-2-07.htm

anyone has more, just add on the list.

actually we can compile a list of those URLs, print them on fliers for distribution.

we can come up a competition for designing of the fliers, put them online, vote for the best ones so that we can use them globally. we don't have that much resources and we have to use what we have in smart way.

of course, those fliers should be in englsih, german, french, or else?

sounds like an idea?

[ 本帖最後由 snortbsd 於 2008-4-16 09:23 編輯 ]

作者: rockdale606 時間: 2008-4-15 20:21
good idea. support.

作者: xwangm 時間: 2008-4-15 21:10

作者: mirage31 時間: 2008-4-15 21:57
標題: 我加幾個URLS

原帖由 snortbsd 於 2008-4-15 10:50 發表

you really need not to say anything except giving out the collections of URLs:

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html#notes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY&feature=re ...

整個最近的反華鬧劇都是CIA 和美國民主基金會策劃的，達賴只是個前台的小丑。

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8397
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8442
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8462
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8656
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8625

作者: rockdale606 時間: 2008-4-15 22:31
有沒有可能以世界幾個大城市的主要網站為中心，聯合辦一份定期的英文報紙，向西方人傳播事實的真相和客觀的聲音？
報紙通過網路編輯定稿，在多倫多，悉尼，溫哥華，墨爾本，西雅圖等地印刷發行。大家志願捐款，志願者免費在車站向西方人派發。
考慮到版權問題，主要刊登原創文章，但是文中可以多多引用西方學者揭示西藏真相的原文段落，並且註明出處，引導他們去進一步閱讀。
報紙名稱可用「Truth and Fair」等等。
聯合起來，辦一份我們全體華人的世界性的英文報紙！用合理合法的方式，不間斷地去訴說我們的聲音！

作者: 愛國有罪嗎？ 時間: 2008-4-16 03:01

原帖由 rockdale606 於 2008-4-15 22:31 發表
有沒有可能以世界幾個大城市的主要網站為中心，聯合辦一份定期的英文報紙，向西方人傳播事實的真相和客觀的聲音？
報紙通過網路編輯定稿，在多倫多，悉尼，溫哥華，墨爾本，西雅圖等地印刷發行。大家志願捐款， ...

支持！

作者: snortbsd 時間: 2008-4-16 03:55

原帖由 rockdale606 於 2008-4-15 22:31 發表
有沒有可能以世界幾個大城市的主要網站為中心，聯合辦一份定期的英文報紙，向西方人傳播事實的真相和客觀的聲音？
報紙通過網路編輯定稿，在多倫多，悉尼，溫哥華，墨爾本，西雅圖等地印刷發行。大家志願捐款， ...

believe or not, most of westerns don't read that much. they just watch some tv news with few stations. they take whatever those tv stations fed to them and view that as "truth". that is strategy of those "free tea-bag". they knew the most of westerners don't think by themselves and they don't read anything else except the news from few tv stations. the complicated history and politics behind the facts are just too complicated for average people in the west.

here is the mind set:

1) whatever not from the west is propaganda
2) anyone disagreed with the mainstream of the west is brainwashed (maybe commie)

the filers have the list of those resources and give them an option. if they are intelligent enough, if they are willing to search the truth, then they could do own research to see what those URL offer.

with pdf format, anyone could download them and distribute them if needed.

the old fashioned paper 報紙 is outdated in 21th century. it would not disappear, but i doubt it would last too long before it become supplements of internet for the distribution of information.

[ 本帖最後由 snortbsd 於 2008-4-16 03:58 編輯 ]

作者: snortbsd 時間: 2008-4-16 04:08
also we need to compile urls from china side, for ourself. the bottom line we have to take look at both side of stories.

作者: snortbsd 時間: 2008-4-16 05:37

原帖由 mirage31 於 2008-4-15 21:57 發表

整個最近的反華鬧劇都是CIA 和美國民主基金會策劃的，達賴只是個前台的小丑。

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8397
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&a ...

those articles are more on the side of anit-cia. not exactly neutral.

never the less, they provide some valuable opinions.

作者: snortbsd 時間: 2008-4-16 07:21
anyone has better ideas?

作者: snortbsd 時間: 2008-4-16 09:11
no one interested in this topic?

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