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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-12-14 03:25 | 只看該作者

希望大家常來淡心得...[:480:]

我把這兒當成自己的"家",因為家裡好了,心情自然就好了,心情好了,做任何事就會很順利
...
由此而來我也希望大家和我們(意浮大哥,珊和cwjjzhou)共同努力, 把我們的家裝扮的更漂亮,更溫馨...

所以大家有空常回"家"看看,和"家人".朋友談談學習.工作生活心得,有心情的話動筆寫寫... 意浮,珊和cwjjzhou 藉此機會想那些曾經和正在對[活在加國]支持的朋友表示由衷的感謝, 謝謝大家,大家辛苦了... 在大家的共同努力下,我們取得了一定的成績,希望我們能再接再厲, 更上一層樓.
多一絲快樂, 少一些煩惱;
不論鈔票多少, 只要開心就好;
累了就睡, 醒來就微笑;
生活是什麼滋味, 還得自己放調料;
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水影兒 發表於 2005-12-14 04:11 | 只看該作者
支持MM!幾位斑竹辛苦了。。
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-12-29 06:38 | 只看該作者
多一絲快樂, 少一些煩惱;
不論鈔票多少, 只要開心就好;
累了就睡, 醒來就微笑;
生活是什麼滋味, 還得自己放調料;
一切隨緣, 童心到老, 快樂一生
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Bballfan 發表於 2005-12-29 09:27 | 只看該作者
像阿姨這麼聰明努力的人, 為何不讀下一個專業, 那時更有機會做更好的工作, 發揮更大的力量..
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-12-29 14:15 | 只看該作者
其實很多東西都在不斷地變化的, 包括我自己的思想, 以前我覺得我還年輕,我可以去上學,正如你所說,可以讀一個自己的專業,再去找一份工作,可是我想到我自己的孩子,如果我去上學,我的孩子和丈夫肯定生活相對會糟糕一些,所以 只好先"委屈自己"吧! 或許等將來孩子長大吧! 其實或許有別的原因吧...連我自己都搞不懂,所以也一直給自己找借口吧! ...謝謝你對我的鼓勵, 我想將來我會再考慮上學的問題... 其實我每天都在學,只是不那麼系統罷了...
多一絲快樂, 少一些煩惱;
不論鈔票多少, 只要開心就好;
累了就睡, 醒來就微笑;
生活是什麼滋味, 還得自己放調料;
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-12-29 14:29 | 只看該作者

the letters to the boss and replies

Letter 1:

Fri, 4 Nov 2005 02:50:56 +0800 (CST)
發件人:        "mingyu "    添加到地址簿
主題:         my opinions
收件人:        Frank.stipo
Hi, Frank,
This is cathy, an employee from workshop of MRS. Maybe you don't know me, it's ok. I 'd like to tell what I feel. By the way, are you and Angel from the same family? (Angel is my manager) Because I noticed your last names are the same.
Time flies like an arrow.  I have worked in our company for over one month. I found there are big changes in our workshop. It has become very organized and neat from disorganization and mess. I like the current environment more. The people are much nicer; do you notice this kind of change? Angel is a very good manager; he is very smart as well. I am very happy to have him as our manager and he is willing to take good suggestion any time.
As a common employee, I have tried my best to do my work and tried my best to affect the other employees in a positive way. And I always try to find a way to do things fast, good and in an easiest (I think) way.

I don't know whether Angel told you that or not. One day when I label the products, I noticed one package is very beautiful and the other ones are ugly. So I took two (one is good and other one is bad) to ask Angel," If you are a customer, which package do you like?" "Why? For sure it's that one." " Then, why don't we make it like that one?" "No, it takes time and we have to add one more people, we need to pay more, if the customers don't complain, we just let them go like this." I understand Angel is thinking about company's in the near benefit. However, I think in another way, right now we know the competition among companies is
Very competitive, if we want to win more orders from the customers, we need to enhance our image of products. At that moment, I didn't say anything. I was just thinking how to change that kind of situation with the same amount employees.

It is so happened that we did the same products the next morning. I got the chance to collect them. I found a good way to make it even on side by pressing them at the same time. How excited I am! After the products are sealed, they all are so pretty. I was so happy. Even though I felt a little bit tired, I was still satisfied with what I had done. Some people asked me, " why you are so silly? You know, they just pay you that much, why you work so hard." Maybe my personality makes me like that, Whatever I do I will try my best to do it well. For sure I wish I could be paid more. But, It won't let me down even though the little payment. I think I will benefit from this practice in the near future. Once I got good character, I am not  of not finding a better job.

As we all know, I work fast and good. At the same time I am in a good lead ship of work. Like in China, company will have a very good system to reward those who do special contribution, which stimulates the other employee's initiative. Do we have this kind of policy? By the way, you want to pay a little more who can do double work or pay double for two persons who work as the former one?  
Sorry, that's my personal opinion. If you can't accept, just forget about it!

Reply of boss
主題:        RE: my opinions
日期:        Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:12:24 -0500
發件人:        "Frank Stipo"    觀看聯絡細節
收件人:        "mingyu wang"
抄送:        "Angel Stipo"

Hi Mingyu,

Thank you for your e-mail.

I like when our employee's (full time or part time) take extra care on the work they do and also
try to improve the system.

I agree with you, things always can be better and that must be our goal to always improve.

Each sector/team manager need the support of his/her staff in order to do the best possible work,
you are more than welcome to bring suggestions to Angel for him to consider, try always to find the
appropriate time to discuss your observation points with him.

As far as salary is concern, we must keep in line with our competition otherwise soon our prices will
have to increase and this will make us uncompetitive in the market place, at the same time I take pride
knowing that we always are trying to improve the salary and working conditions to all concerned.
We as a company always try to re-ward hard working employees, this been by giving them salary increases
and/or offering them full time job positions as they become available and we feel they could be a good fit for such
positions.

If you look around the company, 70% or more of the full time employees we have today, were at some point part-time employees
that had been rewarded for their potential and dedication.
That's why I encourage you and all employees to always try your best, everyone's effort is always noticed.

Regards,
Frank Stipo
President of MRS




Letter2
日期:        Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:22:23 +0800 (CST)
發件人:        "mingyu " 添加到地址簿
主題:        My suggestion
收件人:        "Frank Stipo"

Hi, Frank and Angel
How are you doing? This is Cathy. Are you surprised that I wrote to you once again?

Actually I am very surprised you are brothers. Since you are brothers, I write to you together, hopefully it won』t make you angry. Thank you, Frank, for replying my e-mail so soon. Thank you, Angel, for adopting some of my suggestion. I think through our employees』 and employer』s common effort, our company will go up day after day. I have already seen this pleasing change step by step.

However, just like I told Angel before, I am a very honest person, if I saw something uncomfortable, I need to speak out, otherwise I feel very upset. Actually working here is not a simple labor, if people thought that way, he or she can do the work just slowly and clumsily. For sure, anybody can do the job; the key is how she can work fast. As you know, the assembly line』s efficient lies in two factors, one is the leader another is the speed of the belt. How can use this, the leader has to know how her employees work. She must know the employee』s advantages. As I mentioned to Angel before, a good leader should consider the employee』s feeling, using a smart way to solve problems, which makes employees happily to accept and meanwhile, it has the better efficient. Let』s think about, if I made a mistake, the supervisor didn』t blame, and said, 「 next time, please be careful or don』t do that.」 If I heard that, I must try my best to do the work well because I have a heart of full of thanks and guiltiness. Here supervisor just call you to do something, if you don』t do it well, she doesn』t check the reason, she just complain or change the person, if like that, how could we train new people to do the job? If this keeps going, we only have very few people can do hard work fast and good. Maybe because I was a teacher, I think every why must have the reason. So I always try my best to find why. I prefer to doing it slowly and thinking it at the same time, and then I will find good ways to do. That』s why how come I do many things faster and faster. I am a very open person, I like to help people, and I know how to teach people, maybe because I was a teacher before.

I remember one day, I taught one Chinese lady how to put the books in on the belt. Other people complain, 「 You think you can do it better, you do it.」 I said to them, 「 I try my best to help people, for sure I can do it, however, I am only one person, we need team work, only the efficient of everybody is up, then the efficient of products.」 The lady was very modest to listen to me, and she really worked very gladly and easily and at the same time she was very thankful looking at me. We smiled at each other…

Angel, The day before yesterday, you talked about us the issue of ladies』 washroom, at the end you ask fang to translate into Chinese, I wonder there is anybody who don』t understand English except some of Chinese, If so, why don』t you speak Spanish or ask someone to translate into Philips. If you know there is some people, and you didn』t do that. That means you think it is Chinese people who messed the toilet?
Sorry, if this makes you angry, I apologize. I didn』t mean do that, I just want to you know anybody say something or do something to think in other people』s stance. I know, even we say to respect each other, however, it is hard to do, if we try our best to do, then makes every person happy. I think it is a good thing, isn』t it?

Another thing, just like yesterday, the supervisor asked whether we come to work or not, later she was told many wouldn』t. Later on she said to me, 「 Listen, tomorrow everybody has to come to work, whoever not come, Monday no work.」 She asked me to explain to the Chinese, actually as one of them, after hearing this, I felt a little bit shocked. How could she talk in that way?  If I were she, I should say like this, 「 my friends, tomorrow we have some orders need to rush, please try to come tomorrow, I know it is cold, hopefully every body supports our company, if you can』t come tomorrow, please let me know.」 I think if saying like this, who will refuse if they don』t have important thing to do? At the same time we feel very happy as well.  Sorry, this is only my personal opinion. If you don』t think it is right, just forget about it.

Angel and Frank, winter is here. As you know, we all wear coats, I wonder where I should put my long coats, in the closet? It must wrinkle.. If you could please provide some hangers and one wardrobe, I think every employee will thank you.  

Thanks for taking your time to read my e-mail.

Yours truly,
Cathy

Letter 3
Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:27:29 +0800 (CST)
發件人:        "mingyu "   添加到地址簿
主題:        How do you think?
收件人:        "Frank Stipo"

Hi, Frank,

This is Cathy. I went to your office to ask for my record of employment, sorry for the liberty because I asked the receptionist. He told me to ask you. Later on you told me to check with Angel. I got it, but there is something wrong with it, they didn't include my last two days payment of this week, so Angel asked me to bring back Monday.
Sorry, I don't know Angel didn't tell you that I asked for ROE (record of employment). Since you are a very nice boss, I'd like you to know more information about me. I am from Beijing in 2001. (I was a teacher in there). The first 2 yrs I stayed at home taking care of my children- now they are 7 and 3. After my son was 1 yr, I sent both of my children to daycare. Then I started to work in Revelle home fashion. I had worked there for over 2 yrs. I was in charge of packing department. The boss-Freddy looked upon on me and he trained me how to do receiving and how to create UPC. I have learned a lot in that company. All my Canadian experience is from there. Later on I found it was not so challenging, then I quit and started my current job here, which is my second job.
Even though I only worked here for only 2 months, but I like it and I always try my best and I have made lots of friends here. As I mentioned to you before, I always try my best to do everything. I gave many suggestions to Angel such as, how to put CD straight, Censor straight, how to avoid double work-according to our orders, calculate how many boxes of cases we need to open in case we put too many inserts, later on we need to take them out, which waste lots of time. I also suggested Angel how to make the package more beautiful. Every other Friday I saw Angel spent lots of time on giving payment information to the employees. Then I suggested him to use the employees' number and now he is doing that. I led the employees to make our work environment more clean and tidy. I know how to work fast, good and easily. What's more, my English is not poor. I can express what I want to. Maybe you don't believe, how come I, as a common employee, can do so good? Guess why? Because whatever I do, I work fastest and in a smartest way.

「Like you said in an e-mail to me,」 If you look around the company, 70% or more of the full time employees we have today, were at some point part-time employees
That had been rewarded for their potential and dedication.
That's why I encourage you and all employees to always try your best, everyone's effort is always noticed."

Even though I asked for record of employment. However, I am very intelligent, I'd like to work more; as to this, you can check with Angel and Dieana, if I have chance, I 'd like to do more. I wonder " do you think I have an opportunity to become a full-time employee, after that, How much payment I will get? Could you tell me any information about that? "

Monday I will come back to our company, do you think it is necessary for me to talk with you? Or I just ask them to correct my Record, and then claim EI. Because I have worked for  onsecutive over 2000 hours. BTW, now I am a chief of "English Garden" column in a Chinese website. If you are interested, you can read my threads.

Have a wonderful day!

Yours truly,
Cathy

Reply of this letter
主題:        RE: How do you think?
日期:        Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:38:53 -0500
發件人:        "Frank Stipo"    觀看聯絡細節
收件人:        "mingyu wang"

Hi Cathy,

On Monday just give to Angel your paper work and he will ask Edelvais to correct the mistake.
At the moment we cannot offer you full time employment.
I like to thank you for your efforts and wish you the best in the
Future .

Regards,

Frank STipo
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水影兒 發表於 2005-12-31 10:14 | 只看該作者
前幾天不在,剛剛看到MM的這篇精彩原創。祝新年一切順利!
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-12-31 11:28 | 只看該作者
謝謝JJ的關心!
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2005-12-31 18:49 | 只看該作者

打工心得

後記: 從我的2年的打工經歷, 我有一種收穫, 那種收穫如果我不移民, 永遠不會獲得, 那就是說別浪費生命! 時間就是金錢, 知識就是力量, 如果不移民我的英語也不會有今天的成績, 我們得白手起家, 那將來的"家"就是你不懈努力的見證...當然任何事物都有兩面性, 移民加國我的確失去了很多,但我得到了更多...

朋友們, 我寫這些, 主要告訴大家: 是你的權力一定要爭取, 因為只有這樣, 我們的移民地位才會逐步提高, 有人說, 我的英語不行啊. 朋友,別為自己的懶惰一而再地找借口... 英語不好,可以學,HOW? 學習並不是一件難事...
可以從幾個方面去學英語,以後有機會我會告訴大家, 如果大家還相信我的話...

我的打工經歷還有幾點心得: 當你任何時候QUIT 或LAID OFF別忘了要ROE;
千萬不要看輕有些LABOUR, 因為說不定你的努力又給你 career 重生的機會;"做一個小池塘的大魚容易,做一個大池塘的小魚很難; 小池塘的大魚得到成長,再去大池塘,相對而言就容易得多;相反即使成了大池塘的小魚,若不努力讓自己成長,總有一天被淘汰的..."

還有一點教訓, 我一直希望自己有拿EI 的機會, 為什麼失去了呢?就是在有些方面自以為知道了,結果沒有去諮詢有關專家,結果本已屬於我的鴿子因為我的大意而飛了...
凡事謙悲, 有意無害;
當然適當時候"毛遂自薦"精神會給你自己和別人帶來更多更好的機會...尤其在北美國家.
另外有一點心得,在北美找工作,Reference 尤為重要, 我有一個朋友A, 他很聰明, 在國內不是學IT的, 但是他有一個很好的朋友B在IT 行業, 有一天B公司需要招人, B就將A介紹去了,A很努力,現在利用工作之餘居然修了YORK 的一個computer Degree, 而且他的工作和生活都蒸蒸日上, 現在他居然年薪有$60,000多, 所以通過他,我還在想,為什麼那麼多本來是IT專業的反到找不到工作呢?...朋友很重要, 尤其在這種社會, 一定要讓自己走出去,多交流, 多獲得信息....
多一絲快樂, 少一些煩惱;
不論鈔票多少, 只要開心就好;
累了就睡, 醒來就微笑;
生活是什麼滋味, 還得自己放調料;
一切隨緣, 童心到老, 快樂一生
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still白楊 發表於 2006-1-4 08:34 | 只看該作者
引用:"其實很多東西都在不斷地變化的, 包括我自己的思想, 以前我覺得我還年輕,我可以去上學,正如你所說,可以讀一個自己的專業,再去找一份工作,可是我想到我自己的孩子,如果我去上學,我的孩子和丈夫肯定生活相對會糟糕一些,所以 只好先"委屈自己"吧! 或許等將來孩子長大吧! 其實或許有別的原因吧...連我自己都搞不懂,所以也一直給自己找借口吧! ...謝謝你對我的鼓勵, 我想將來我會再考慮上學的問題... 其實我每天都在學,只是不那麼系統罷了... "


是啊,曾經以為自己是堅強不變的,但是事實是人的思想是隨著環境、境遇等等不斷的變化的。有時變得連自己都不認得了。
千秋邈矣獨留我,百戰歸來再讀書。
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 樓主| cwjjzhou 發表於 2006-1-4 12:19 | 只看該作者

I'd like to, however I can't sometimes...

Sorry, I am not so great as somebody, and I feel guilty that sometimes I am selfish too, I can't share everything with everybody... Sometimes my heart tells me to do that, however, the pressure of society makes it hard happen to me... I wish I was a really angel, abandon all the tiresome things, enjoy what I love and what I like... do whatever I want to do, get rid of all kinks of bonds and be complete free...
I'd like to have wings and fly, and I'd like to be an airplane...when I want to fly, I even don't need to have flap my wings, then I still can fly...
my world is too small, my heart tells me that the world outside is so big... we should broad our vision... to take and give what we like to...
life is so beautiful, enjoy and never give up, whatever you think is right, please pursue the goal until it comes true. Just because this kind of feeling of human being, then there are perfomaning one love story after another one...

Thanks for your frank... I will work hard and have your words in my heart...
多一絲快樂, 少一些煩惱;
不論鈔票多少, 只要開心就好;
累了就睡, 醒來就微笑;
生活是什麼滋味, 還得自己放調料;
一切隨緣, 童心到老, 快樂一生
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不再是我 發表於 2006-1-5 00:20 | 只看該作者
怎麼說呢?你是非常聰明和勤勞的,這毫無疑問。你和多數初來這裡的中國人一樣,懷著滿腔熱情,希望通過自己的勤勞,獲得好的回報。但每個社會有不同的運作方式,千萬不要將中國的那一套思維方式搬到這裡運用(據說在美國還行,這裡有點像社會主義大鍋飯)。你自豪地說你幹得很快,甚至還讓老闆取消了生產線裁掉了員工。其實你不知道,那些鬼佬可以幹得和你一樣快甚至更快(本人親眼見過他們快起來是什麼樣子,中國人年紀稍大一點的都追不上,因為體力不如他們),但他們並不這麼做,因為他們和你想得不一樣,他們不想在正常工作時間內完成所有的工作,他們想留些活到加班時間干,這樣可以掙1.5倍的工資,自己可以多點收入(他們認為這是他們權利的一部分),僅靠正常收入是不夠的。他們也不滿足於僅僅拿最低工資就要做繁重的體力勞動,可能有些人做了很久都沒有漲過工資(這並不罕見),所以他們並不太熱衷快速。你想到的他們也都想得到,裁人是他們不願意的,你的立場是站在老闆一方,替老闆省了錢換取他給你加工資,這就是為什麼中國人在這裡很受排擠的原因之一。中國人幹活速度快,臟活累活搶著干,老闆很喜歡,卻使那些舒服慣了的鬼佬有了危機感,他們失業或不順利,就會認為是中國人搶了他們的飯碗而心生怨恨。其實那工廠里,多你一個不多,少你一個不少,就別太累了,而且千萬別建議老闆裁人,會犯眾怒的。
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尋花問柳 發表於 2006-1-5 14:47 | 只看該作者
謝謝cwjjzhou 朋友的分享, 我想這些對很多移民朋友都很有用的.但願你有更燦爛的明天.
你是魚,我是水 魚對水說:我在水裡你看不到我眼淚 水對魚說:我感覺的到.――因為你在我心裡
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hello100 發表於 2006-1-7 00:14 | 只看該作者
"不再是我"說的有道理.我記得以前看到,如果你乾的又快又多,工會組織可能就找到你,說破壞了工作環境云云.其實在一定程度上也是保護僱員這一弱勢群體的利益,因為僱員永遠不可能都得過公司.而多數老闆決不會主動儘可能多地給僱員應得的回報.

另,字不錯,不愧是當過老師的.
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flyingbird13 發表於 2006-1-21 00:38 | 只看該作者
堂堂的老師(畢竟是腦力工作者)竟然開始從事藍領的工作,而且還不長久,這是一種進步還是退步?  --我始終搞不明白大家移民為的是什麼?
--是更好的發展?-(大家在國內的工作一般都不錯,有的甚至很好,即使有不好的,拿出你在加拿大一半的力氣,一定可以得到好工作) --可看看大家現在的情況,發展不是很容易,總有家裡或者社會的原因牽絆你,所以還是年輕的單身出來好一些,可以開闊眼界,你也輸得起,大不了從頭再來。

--是為了那種刻骨銘心慘痛的經歷? (這理由很好,我沒話說)~~

--為了那個楓葉卡和護照,以後出國容易--孩子以後上學容易。 (為了這個目的,好多含辛茹苦的父母用青春賭明天,義無反顧的蹲著移民監,省吃儉用,辛苦打工,為了孩子啊---可這又能帶來什麼啊--用自己和愛人的青春和歡樂換來了一個未知的結果-孩子會怎樣,將來會怎樣還很難說,可這份苦我們已經實實在在的在承受了。--這是偉大的父愛母愛嗎? 試想一個缺乏歡樂的家庭會給孩子什麼樣的影響,--或者你們苦中作樂,--但是從事的工作呢?--大多數還是藍領或者勞力的工作,怎麼向孩子交待--雖然你會說工作無貴賤,但真的沒有貴賤之分嗎?以後孩子就是來自一個這樣的一個家庭,父親母親或是勞力,或是小商人,而在國內他可以來自一個體面的家庭,母親是老師,父親是大公司職員或政府職員---有沒有區別?---關於出國問題,簽證的問題,從中國的發展看,等到孩子能用得到的時候(15-20年後),這個問題難道還會存在嗎?--現在小日本已經放開了,歐美也指日可待,再說照現在的發展速度,那時候我們還有必要出去嗎--除了旅遊?)
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我現在也正在猶豫彷徨,老婆想出來,而我很沒信心,沒有出來的動力。(我們的情況,我是大學教授(副)專業是物理,老婆現在是外企職員,有房可以有車(可以買沒買),老婆的理由就是後面的兩條,主要是最後一條。 看我們的情況,來加拿大找個相當的工作的可能性幾乎是零,只能從頭開始。

---(因為是討論,所以說的情況比較極端,言辭也不很客氣,但沒有人身攻擊的意思,大家諒解。)
遇到夜裡擺地攤的,能買就多買一些,別還價,東西都不貴。家境哪怕好一點,誰會大冷天夜裡擺地攤。
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