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讀孔慶東在韓國講抗美援朝

作者:陽關  於 2010-1-30 05:46 發表於 最熱鬧的華人社交網路--貝殼村

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不覺得孔教授說的有什麼錯。
幾十年後回頭再看抗美援朝這場戰爭,絕對是必要的。當時的中國不只是試圖從昔日的屈辱和落後中站起身來, 而且還努力地想在列強包圍擠壓中走出自己的路子來。這時自信心尤為重要。這一仗就是打出了自信心,才有了後來的退出聯合國,和蘇老大決裂,終結世界核子壟斷等。我不是說,這一切皆源於韓戰的結果。 但是, 韓戰的結局提供了強大的心理支撐依據。老毛不是神人。但是他很注重過往的經驗。

對孔教授說的雙方人員傷亡的具體數目不完全贊同。但這不妨礙支持他的觀點。

人往往愛走極端。不是盲目跟從瞎激動,就是全盤否定,一無是處。我堅決力挺愛惜生命這一文明理念。但是, 當一個生命和一個國家/民族的利益,尊嚴和戰略目標相碰撞時,生命只能在很大程度上服從這些目標。 任何一個國家都是這樣做的。中國是這樣,美國更是這樣。想想越南戰爭,入侵伊拉克。無論以什麼理由和借口,戰死沙場的一個個生命都服務於各自的目的。當然,各自的目的/目標又決定其死亡「或重於泰山,或輕於鴻毛。」

就事論事,這場戰爭之於中國人,值。

願所有命喪於斯的人們能夠安息。不管是中國的還是美國的還是其他國家的。

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回復 snortbsd 2010-1-30 06:20
visited the war museum in soul and it was pretty interesting experience.
回復 陽關 2010-1-30 09:17
snortbsd: visited the war museum in soul and it was pretty interesting experience.
去現場了解他們的想法一定很有意思的
回復 遙祝 2010-1-30 09:47
回復 陽關 2010-1-30 10:08
遙祝:
你這笑,有些個高深莫測。
比較蒙娜麗莎

謝謝遙祝。
回復 snortbsd 2010-1-30 10:16
陽關: 去現場了解他們的想法一定很有意思的
actually the seoul war museum was very nicely constructed. a lot of displays of weaponry.

right next to the biggest american base in south korea...
回復 遙祝 2010-1-30 10:21
陽關: 你這笑,有些個高深莫測。
比較蒙娜麗莎

謝謝遙祝。
我在酒吧上班著,用的是小小的筆記本電腦,打字很吃力,所以一般喜歡用笑臉表示我贊同你的想法等等,給你帶來疑惑不好意思哈
回復 美國魯漢 2010-1-30 10:40
贊同文章的觀點。
回復 穿鞋的蜻蜓 2010-1-30 10:41
snortbsd: visited the war museum in soul and it was pretty interesting experience.
回復 穿鞋的蜻蜓 2010-1-30 10:42
孔說了什麼?
回復 snortbsd 2010-1-30 11:00
穿鞋的蜻蜓:
seoul, typo...
回復 穿鞋的蜻蜓 2010-1-30 11:08
snortbsd: seoul, typo...
well i didn't really care so much about how seoul is spelt as your 'interesting experience' at that museum:)
回復 馬大哈ann 2010-1-30 11:18
沒看過他的講演,但是你的說法我完全贊同。一切要從歷史的角度看問題。。。中國能有今天第一代共產黨人作出了巨大的貢獻。。。
回復 snortbsd 2010-1-30 12:33
穿鞋的蜻蜓: well i didn't really care so much about how seoul is spelt as your 'interesting experience' at that museum:)
hmm, the brave south korea soldiers fought brilliantly against human tides and waves of the red chinese. of course a lot of pictures of those captured chinese soldiers were the powerful proofs for that. interestingly not that many pictures of north korea pows as i expected.... in reality, more north korea pows than chinese ones

i followed a group of tourists with tour guide. one american woman asked the chinese scripts in some pictures, the tour guide gave out a quick answer:"those were ancient korean writing"......
回復 陽關 2010-1-30 13:59
遙祝: 我在酒吧上班著,用的是小小的筆記本電腦,打字很吃力,所以一般喜歡用笑臉表示我贊同你的想法等等,給你帶來疑惑不好意思哈
好樣的! 一手抓革命, 一手促生產。
以後有機會一定來拜訪你的酒吧, 是不是門上支了一個酒幌子: 三碗不過崗
回復 陽關 2010-1-30 14:01
美國魯漢: 贊同文章的觀點。
握個手
回復 陽關 2010-1-30 14:05
馬大哈ann: 沒看過他的講演,但是你的說法我完全贊同。一切要從歷史的角度看問題。。。中國能有今天第一代共產黨人作出了巨大的貢獻。。。
同感。做對了就應該正確評價。
沒做對的就不跟他們摻和。
回復 穿鞋的蜻蜓 2010-1-30 22:59
snortbsd: hmm, the brave south korea soldiers fought brilliantly against human tides and waves of the red chinese. of course a lot of pictures of those capture
Thanks!That IS interesting. I heard the similar stuff (human tides and waves)from a Chinese man (said was son of former cook of SK prez.李承晚 and invented the most popular seafood flavored noodle炸醬麵 in that country) from South Korea,the same guy also told me how nastily Koreans had treated Chinese there (in school,restaurant,etc.)  they are really narrow-minded meanies who are shamelessly desperate to get ahead beyond the limit.
回復 snortbsd 2010-1-31 01:56
穿鞋的蜻蜓: Thanks!That IS interesting. I heard the similar stuff (human tides and waves)from a Chinese man (said was son of former cook of SK prez.李承晚 and i
well, i didn't have problems with koreans in general, plus i stayed in bases in most of my time over there.

yes south koreans i met were kinda overly sensitive regarding their images. the issue of "saving face" is much, much worse than that of chinese, in general.

one of misunderstandings of casualties for UN side was the elements of american fight units in korea. for at least half of american fighting units were/are koreans (so called KATUSA soldiers). they were/are korean citizens. together with americans, they form a fighting unit. say a company, there could be more than half of koreans....
回復 穿鞋的蜻蜓 2010-1-31 02:28
snortbsd: well, i didn't have problems with koreans in general, plus i stayed in bases in most of my time over there.

yes south koreans i met were kinda over
i have no problems dealing with them either just a little side comment. some of the comments were told by non-asians(black for example) before I got the first hand impressions afterwords.

Thanks for the info regarding the US/SK casualities.

The truth about casulties of Korean War is like a messy mirror ,we can get as much as we can make out--- all i know is there have been manipulations on both sides for the sake of  self serving propaganda--it's only natural and necessary perhaps.

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