- 在國內聽小道消息，從動車事故到王立軍 (ZT) [2012/05]
- 對八九六四的認真反思，一不得不讀的好文 (ZT) [2013/06]
- 昨天說他是＂奴才＂，今更正為＂洋奴才＂ [2010/07]
- 中國不應該計劃生育嗎？ by 米笑 [2011/12]
- 林書豪事件后，哪些華人反應過激 (ZT) [2012/02]
- 也談6.4，支持小平 [2009/05]
- 美國公司文化體驗之一 (記我的兩個70后同事) [2009/05]
- 新中國風風雨雨走過６１年，值此大喜的日子，作為海外華人，今天來＂酸葡萄＂一下 [2010/10]
- 看看美國公校里怎樣教乘法 [2009/02]
- 質疑［一個統一過中國的領導人，肯定不是人民的公敵。］ [2010/04]
- 智取小偷－－駕校里的故事 [2009/05]
- 周燕霞是政客嗎？ [2009/03]
- 母親的詩 [2009/03]
- 一轉身，交了個朋友；再一轉身，又交了個朋友，還得了份工作 [2009/04]
- 村裡建了「忠烈祠」 [2009/03]
- 我的兄弟姐妹 [2009/04]
北方憨哥的文章，很受歡迎。再節錄一篇。
自由和民主是相對而言的。
前不久有一位美國婦女，因為網上辱罵網友被判有罪（題圖），已經開了先例。
2008年11月26日，美國密蘇里州49歲婦女洛麗•德魯到達洛杉磯聯邦地區法院。洛麗•德魯利用虛假身份在「我的空間」註冊，冒充一名16歲少男與13歲女孩梅甘•邁爾交往，對其進行譏諷辱罵並致其自殺。
美國律師發出警告說：「任何一個人想用網際網路或社交網路折磨另一人時，需要意識到如此行為將帶來嚴重後果。」
今兒個我就把我常上的美國一個著名的自由論壇的條款拷貝下來，與你共同閱讀，看看美國的論壇自由嗎？
使用條款 :
LiberalForum.org is wholly owned by Custom Website Design Office, LLC. You must understand, acknowledge and agree with all of the terms and conditions ("Agreement") stated herein prior to registering for an account or otherwise using our forum or any other part of this website.
大意是：註冊帳戶或以其他方式使用本論壇或通過本論壇訪問任何本網站其他部分的瀏覽者，在此之前，您必須了解，承認和同意所有的條款和條件（「協議」）
1. Prohibited Uses. You are strictly prohibited from using or promoting viruses, trojan horses, MySQL squeezing, hacking, phreaking, or any software or system that may threaten, damage or burden our forum, website, software, server, or any other website, software or server.
第1條大概意思是禁止使用各種軟體手段來搗亂破壞，包括病毒、特洛伊木馬等等，包括反覆地上貼，導致論壇擁堵和承載壓力過重，以及其他影響和危及本網站和其他網站、軟體程序和伺服器。
2. Disclaimer of Liability .
LiberalForum.org (and its owner Custom Web Design Office, LLC ) disclaims all liability regarding from the use of our forum or any part of our website. To be specific: In no event shall LiberalForum.org be liable for any direct, indirect, punitive, incidental, special or consequential damages arising out, of or in any way connected with, the use of this website or with the delay or inability to use this website, or for the materials obtained through this web site, or for any claimed damage from our forum, or otherwise arising out of the use of this website, whether based on contract, tort, strict liability, or otherwise, even if LiberalForum.org has been advised of the possibility of damages. Our forum uses technology that is licensed from Invision Power Services (Invision), and Invision shall not be liable for your use of its forum technology. LiberalForum.org
第2條的意思是說該論壇不打算為論壇導致的任何不良後果承擔任何間接、直接、附帶等任何責任。包括論壇本身出了毛病無法打開閱覽，等等。一句話，法律免責。
3. Suspensions, Terminations and Banning . LiberalForum.org reserves the right to suspend or terminate any member, or ban/block any member or user from our forum or any other area of our website, without providing a justification or notice if we feel it is in the best interest of our web community. LiberalForum.org If we suspend, terminate or ban you from our site and/or forum, and you attempt to circumvent this measure and regain access by registering under a new screen name or identity or any other method, we will construe this action by you as a form of unauthorized trespass. In such case, you have attempted to breach our security, and your information may be forwarded to authorities without notice to you.
第3條大概意思是本論壇的版主保留這個權力：可以禁止你上此論壇，或者刪除你的網名，而且無需給你理由，也不需要事先通知你。如果你試圖耍花招兒繞過，比如你在網名被禁的情況下，使用其它的網名進來，這被視做非法侵入，我們有可能在不事先通知你的情況下向政府權力機構告發你。（博主點評：美國也有告發啊，呵呵）
4. Forum Postings. LiberalForum.org makes website discussion forums available to its users. LiberalForum.org Any information that is written, pasted, posted or otherwise disclosed in these areas becomes public. You are advised to exercise caution when disclosing your personal or professional thoughts and/or information. Posts and any other form of submission by users express the views of the author of the message, and NOT the views of LiberalForum.org.
第4條說得是論壇的帖子，大概意思是該論壇是一個公開的論壇，你在此張貼的任何東西都被公開，因此當你透露一些私人的東西或者專業的東西的時候，你自己要仔細考慮，謹慎行事，你發表的東西代表你的觀點，並不代表論壇的觀點。
5. Copyright. You may NOT submit/post any writing, pictures or any other information ("works") on our forum if by doing so you would violate the intellectual property rights of a third party. Chances are that if you did not create the works yourself --or they are not widely known as being in the public domain -- someone else has copyright protection in those works. It is your responsibility to post works that are not in violation of federal, state and international intellectual property laws. Consistent with Section 2, above, LiberalForum.org will not be responsible for your infringement.
第5條說得是版權問題。大概意思是你不得張貼人家已經有了知識產權的東西，包括書面文字文件、圖片和任何其他資料，不得違反聯邦和州立的知識產權保護相關法律和國際知識產權法。論壇對你的違法侵權不負任何責任。
6. Code of Conduct. You must abide by our Code of Conduct:
A. Adhere to Forum Designations . There are certain areas of the board that allow participation from both Members (Liberals) and Non-Liberals. However, the "Liberals-Only" area is reserved for Members who already agree on basic principles and philosophy. Non-Liberals are not permitted to participate in areas designated for Members. Because this is a Liberal board, newly registered users are put in the Members category. Users who do not identify themselves as Liberals must send an email to info@liberalforum.org requesting that their designation be changed to Non-Liberal.
第6條說得是你必須遵守我們的行為守則。其中，規則A是說你註冊進入論壇，一開始你就屬於自由派成員，因為這是自由派論壇。自由派論壇有他們自己討論問題的原則和觀念，非自由派成員不得進入專門為自由派設計的區域，自由派成員如不想表明其自由派身份，必須發郵件到info@liberalforum.org請求改變為非自由派身份。
B. Be Civil . Don't use language that lowers the tone from that you would see on a television show (ie, "Crossfire" or "Politically Incorrect"). Attacking your opponent personally is not appropriate. What is considered civil in heated political discourse? For example, don't say "you're an idiot." Instead, you can say "that's an idiotic position." Criticizing aspects of people that are beyond their control, such as their race, gender, economic status, etc., are NOT acceptable.
(1) Flaming. You are not allowed to post messages where rudeness, obscenity, hatred, vulgarity, or any other "flaming" is directed at other users. Flaming that is directed at a moderator or admin will be met with swift and strict action.
(2) Excessive Profanity. While you may use profanity lightly as a mere exclamation to further express yourself or to underscore a point, you may not use excessive profanity in your posts.
(3) Adult Material. Adult material is strictly prohibited. You may not post or link to any adult and/or obscene material.
(4) Spam. You may not post messages that promote commercial products or services, or any form of self-promotion. This includes affiliate links or links to your own products or services. You may contact us to report spam at info@liberalforum.org .
規則B大概意思是說要講文明禮貌，不要有過「火」和偏激的政治語言，進行人身攻擊等，比如，不要說「你是白痴」，但你可以說「這是一個十分愚蠢的觀點」。不能夠批評人們超出了他們控制的方面，比如種族，性別，當前經濟狀況等等，如果你這麼做，就有可能被禁止。可能被禁止的還有，粗俗不雅，不尊敬他人，成人淫穢資料，廣告和垃圾郵件等。
C. Be Sincere. Don't post just to get people riled up. Don't disrupt the purpose of the forum, which is to foster genuine, and where possible, constructive dialogue between people of opposing ideologies.
(1) Misrepresentation. Do not post messages that contain intentional misrepresentation of facts, or intentionally distort the truth. If you present information where a material element of that message directly contradicts something you have said earlier, please be prepared to justify the change of information.
(2) Misdirection. Do not change the subject of a thread or post or otherwise misdirect a discussion.
(3) Identity. Do not pretend to be another user/member or otherwise lie about your identity.
規則C說的是要真誠，不要觸犯眾怒；不要擾亂論壇的目的，是在儘可能的情況下，促進人與人之間在不同意識形態和思想領域真誠、建設性地對話。更不要造謠，虛假陳述、歪曲事實；不要誤導，不要偽裝自己的身份。
7. Deletion, Modification or Moving of Posts/Threads. LiberalForum.org reserves the right to remove any forum posting that its admin or moderators consider inappropriate or in poor taste. LiberalForum.org. Our decision as to what we will delete will be completely subjective. In addition, we may edit, modify, or move your posts/threads at our sole discretion and at any time without notice to you.
第7條的意思是論壇的管理者和版主有權在不事先通知你的情況下，有權刪除、修改或者移動你的貼子，版主們做這些事情的時候完全是憑主觀的（subjective），只要版主認為你的貼子不合適，或者不合自己的胃口。（博主點評：看來這裡你也不能夠抱怨版主不公平，不客觀，他們想怎樣做就可以怎樣做，你愛來不來。）
8. Severability: If any provision in this agreement is held to be unenforceable by a court of law or equity, this agreement shall be construed as if such provision did not exist and the unenforceable provision shall not be held to render any other provision of this agreement unenforceable.
第8條的意思是如果本協議中的任何條款被法律上裁決為沒有約束力，那相關條款自然就失效了。
9. Applicable Law . This Agreement is to be governed by and construed under the laws of the State of Maryland and the United States of America.
第9條說的是這個協議是遵守了美國聯邦和馬里蘭州的各項法律的。
10. Entire Agreement . This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement. The Agreement is intended as a complete and exclusive statement of the promises, representations, negotiations, discussions, and other agreements that may have been made in connection with the use of this Site.
第10條說的是這個協議是完整的。
11. Modification of Terms. We reserve the right to modify these terms and conditions at any time and without prior notice to you. It is your responsibility to return to this site to review our terms.
第11條說的是我們將保留隨時修改這些條款和條件的權力，而且修改了也不會提前通知你，你的責任是經常回到這個頁面察看我們的條款是不是修改了。
LiberalForum.org is wholly owned by Custom Website Design Office, LLC. You must understand, acknowledge and agree with all of the terms and conditions ("Agreement") stated herein prior to registering for an account or otherwise using our forum or any other part of this website.
大意是：註冊帳戶或以其他方式使用本論壇或通過本論壇訪問任何本網站其他部分的瀏覽者，在此之前，您必須了解，承認和同意所有的條款和條件（「協議」）
1. Prohibited Uses. You are strictly prohibited from using or promoting viruses, trojan horses, MySQL squeezing, hacking, phreaking, or any software or system that may threaten, damage or burden our forum, website, software, server, or any other website, software or server.
第1條大概意思是禁止使用各種軟體手段來搗亂破壞，包括病毒、特洛伊木馬等等，包括反覆地上貼，導致論壇擁堵和承載壓力過重，以及其他影響和危及本網站和其他網站、軟體程序和伺服器。
2. Disclaimer of Liability .
LiberalForum.org (and its owner Custom Web Design Office, LLC ) disclaims all liability regarding from the use of our forum or any part of our website. To be specific: In no event shall LiberalForum.org be liable for any direct, indirect, punitive, incidental, special or consequential damages arising out, of or in any way connected with, the use of this website or with the delay or inability to use this website, or for the materials obtained through this web site, or for any claimed damage from our forum, or otherwise arising out of the use of this website, whether based on contract, tort, strict liability, or otherwise, even if LiberalForum.org has been advised of the possibility of damages. Our forum uses technology that is licensed from Invision Power Services (Invision), and Invision shall not be liable for your use of its forum technology. LiberalForum.org
第2條的意思是說該論壇不打算為論壇導致的任何不良後果承擔任何間接、直接、附帶等任何責任。包括論壇本身出了毛病無法打開閱覽，等等。一句話，法律免責。
3. Suspensions, Terminations and Banning . LiberalForum.org reserves the right to suspend or terminate any member, or ban/block any member or user from our forum or any other area of our website, without providing a justification or notice if we feel it is in the best interest of our web community. LiberalForum.org If we suspend, terminate or ban you from our site and/or forum, and you attempt to circumvent this measure and regain access by registering under a new screen name or identity or any other method, we will construe this action by you as a form of unauthorized trespass. In such case, you have attempted to breach our security, and your information may be forwarded to authorities without notice to you.
第3條大概意思是本論壇的版主保留這個權力：可以禁止你上此論壇，或者刪除你的網名，而且無需給你理由，也不需要事先通知你。如果你試圖耍花招兒繞過，比如你在網名被禁的情況下，使用其它的網名進來，這被視做非法侵入，我們有可能在不事先通知你的情況下向政府權力機構告發你。（博主點評：美國也有告發啊，呵呵）
4. Forum Postings. LiberalForum.org makes website discussion forums available to its users. LiberalForum.org Any information that is written, pasted, posted or otherwise disclosed in these areas becomes public. You are advised to exercise caution when disclosing your personal or professional thoughts and/or information. Posts and any other form of submission by users express the views of the author of the message, and NOT the views of LiberalForum.org.
第4條說得是論壇的帖子，大概意思是該論壇是一個公開的論壇，你在此張貼的任何東西都被公開，因此當你透露一些私人的東西或者專業的東西的時候，你自己要仔細考慮，謹慎行事，你發表的東西代表你的觀點，並不代表論壇的觀點。
5. Copyright. You may NOT submit/post any writing, pictures or any other information ("works") on our forum if by doing so you would violate the intellectual property rights of a third party. Chances are that if you did not create the works yourself --or they are not widely known as being in the public domain -- someone else has copyright protection in those works. It is your responsibility to post works that are not in violation of federal, state and international intellectual property laws. Consistent with Section 2, above, LiberalForum.org will not be responsible for your infringement.
第5條說得是版權問題。大概意思是你不得張貼人家已經有了知識產權的東西，包括書面文字文件、圖片和任何其他資料，不得違反聯邦和州立的知識產權保護相關法律和國際知識產權法。論壇對你的違法侵權不負任何責任。
6. Code of Conduct. You must abide by our Code of Conduct:
A. Adhere to Forum Designations . There are certain areas of the board that allow participation from both Members (Liberals) and Non-Liberals. However, the "Liberals-Only" area is reserved for Members who already agree on basic principles and philosophy. Non-Liberals are not permitted to participate in areas designated for Members. Because this is a Liberal board, newly registered users are put in the Members category. Users who do not identify themselves as Liberals must send an email to info@liberalforum.org requesting that their designation be changed to Non-Liberal.
第6條說得是你必須遵守我們的行為守則。其中，規則A是說你註冊進入論壇，一開始你就屬於自由派成員，因為這是自由派論壇。自由派論壇有他們自己討論問題的原則和觀念，非自由派成員不得進入專門為自由派設計的區域，自由派成員如不想表明其自由派身份，必須發郵件到info@liberalforum.org請求改變為非自由派身份。
B. Be Civil . Don't use language that lowers the tone from that you would see on a television show (ie, "Crossfire" or "Politically Incorrect"). Attacking your opponent personally is not appropriate. What is considered civil in heated political discourse? For example, don't say "you're an idiot." Instead, you can say "that's an idiotic position." Criticizing aspects of people that are beyond their control, such as their race, gender, economic status, etc., are NOT acceptable.
(1) Flaming. You are not allowed to post messages where rudeness, obscenity, hatred, vulgarity, or any other "flaming" is directed at other users. Flaming that is directed at a moderator or admin will be met with swift and strict action.
(2) Excessive Profanity. While you may use profanity lightly as a mere exclamation to further express yourself or to underscore a point, you may not use excessive profanity in your posts.
(3) Adult Material. Adult material is strictly prohibited. You may not post or link to any adult and/or obscene material.
(4) Spam. You may not post messages that promote commercial products or services, or any form of self-promotion. This includes affiliate links or links to your own products or services. You may contact us to report spam at info@liberalforum.org .
規則B大概意思是說要講文明禮貌，不要有過「火」和偏激的政治語言，進行人身攻擊等，比如，不要說「你是白痴」，但你可以說「這是一個十分愚蠢的觀點」。不能夠批評人們超出了他們控制的方面，比如種族，性別，當前經濟狀況等等，如果你這麼做，就有可能被禁止。可能被禁止的還有，粗俗不雅，不尊敬他人，成人淫穢資料，廣告和垃圾郵件等。
C. Be Sincere. Don't post just to get people riled up. Don't disrupt the purpose of the forum, which is to foster genuine, and where possible, constructive dialogue between people of opposing ideologies.
(1) Misrepresentation. Do not post messages that contain intentional misrepresentation of facts, or intentionally distort the truth. If you present information where a material element of that message directly contradicts something you have said earlier, please be prepared to justify the change of information.
(2) Misdirection. Do not change the subject of a thread or post or otherwise misdirect a discussion.
(3) Identity. Do not pretend to be another user/member or otherwise lie about your identity.
規則C說的是要真誠，不要觸犯眾怒；不要擾亂論壇的目的，是在儘可能的情況下，促進人與人之間在不同意識形態和思想領域真誠、建設性地對話。更不要造謠，虛假陳述、歪曲事實；不要誤導，不要偽裝自己的身份。
7. Deletion, Modification or Moving of Posts/Threads. LiberalForum.org reserves the right to remove any forum posting that its admin or moderators consider inappropriate or in poor taste. LiberalForum.org. Our decision as to what we will delete will be completely subjective. In addition, we may edit, modify, or move your posts/threads at our sole discretion and at any time without notice to you.
第7條的意思是論壇的管理者和版主有權在不事先通知你的情況下，有權刪除、修改或者移動你的貼子，版主們做這些事情的時候完全是憑主觀的（subjective），只要版主認為你的貼子不合適，或者不合自己的胃口。（博主點評：看來這裡你也不能夠抱怨版主不公平，不客觀，他們想怎樣做就可以怎樣做，你愛來不來。）
8. Severability: If any provision in this agreement is held to be unenforceable by a court of law or equity, this agreement shall be construed as if such provision did not exist and the unenforceable provision shall not be held to render any other provision of this agreement unenforceable.
第8條的意思是如果本協議中的任何條款被法律上裁決為沒有約束力，那相關條款自然就失效了。
9. Applicable Law . This Agreement is to be governed by and construed under the laws of the State of Maryland and the United States of America.
第9條說的是這個協議是遵守了美國聯邦和馬里蘭州的各項法律的。
10. Entire Agreement . This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement. The Agreement is intended as a complete and exclusive statement of the promises, representations, negotiations, discussions, and other agreements that may have been made in connection with the use of this Site.
第10條說的是這個協議是完整的。
11. Modification of Terms. We reserve the right to modify these terms and conditions at any time and without prior notice to you. It is your responsibility to return to this site to review our terms.
第11條說的是我們將保留隨時修改這些條款和條件的權力，而且修改了也不會提前通知你，你的責任是經常回到這個頁面察看我們的條款是不是修改了。
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- 回復 snortbsd
- well, in some respects, china is kinda "lawless", culturally. people are not used to the laws and treat laws as restrictions to "freedom". they don't have the concept that freedom means one is free to do anything in the boundary of the laws, not whatever he/she wishes.
it is easier to write laws on papers, but it would takes decades to build up the culture of laws.
some of euripeans don't like the states since they think the laws here are too restrict, even calling the states is "police state"...
- 回復 tinydancer
- 謝謝分享
- 回復 Mythologist
- 丹奇: 及時雨。多謝分享。什麼地方都要有規矩。沒有規矩就不能成方圓。所以，維護貝殼村的和諧至關重要。同意。
路兄，謝謝分享！
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