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作者:jimx98  於 2010-4-11 16:06 發表於 最熱鬧的華人社交網路--貝殼村

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讀過<<圍城>>都知道海歸不是什麼新名詞. 三閭大學裡面的那些貨色, 就是中國現實活生生的寫照.

儘管海歸們受過西洋教育, 其實多數也就是學的是科技的東西, 對西方社會、歷史和文化能夠真正搞懂的很少. 也談不上中國傳統文人的骨氣. 所以骨子裡面還是些奴才.

奴才的特點就是, 一是對主子卑弓屈膝, 二是對其它的奴才, 總想擺出主子的架勢 :(

奴才出了國回歸后還是奴才. 當然頭上多了頂碩士、博士等高帽子. 從此當起奴才來便自覺光鮮了許多.

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回復 marnifan 2010-4-11 17:23
為毛總是這麼犀利忿世嫉俗?
回復 fanlaifuqu 2010-4-11 21:00
與一碗餛飩湯判若兩人。
回復 oneweek 2010-4-11 21:13
就是在國內沒有出過國的官員有幾個不是不是奴才呢? 就算全球中國人只有你一個有骨氣的人, 你的貢獻在什麼地方呢?
回復 snortbsd 2010-4-12 00:00
oneweek: 就是在國內沒有出過國的官員有幾個不是不是奴才呢? 就算全球中國人只有你一個有骨氣的人, 你的貢獻在什麼地方呢?
his masters are western....

guess he doesn't want to be 奴才 of chinese bureaucrats...
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 07:00
oneweek: 就是在國內沒有出過國的官員有幾個不是不是奴才呢? 就算全球中國人只有你一個有骨氣的人, 你的貢獻在什麼地方呢?
一個社會如果老出這樣的論調(講貢獻比犧牲), 這個社會有什麼地方不對勁. 堂堂正正地做人就是對社會最好的貢獻.

對社會不良現象講幾句話, 必須先數數有多少貢獻, 這是什麼邏輯? 還讓不讓人家講話? 看看國人的這些論壇、博客, 有許多真是污煙瘴氣. 先不談論爭人的觀點、立場, 大家究竟能不能做點君子? 我看小人還真的不少. 可悲啊. 最可氣是那些還口口聲聲愛國的主, 有些嘴一張, 人品低下得讓人看不下去. 真是丟愛國都丟到家了.
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 07:04
snortbsd: his masters are western....

guess he doesn't want to be 奴才 of chinese bureaucrats...
這種語調似曾相識. 而且改頭換面, 用上了洋文. 建議您到黨校再學兩年, 提高提高水平, 學會怎麼夾著尾巴講這種話.

聽人家講話, 動不動給人貼上動機、立場等標籤, 這是什麼道德水準? 要是有文字獄的話, 您大概會是拿放大鏡然後報告的主. 奉勸您今後學點怎麼乾乾淨淨做人的基本功德.
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 07:12
就事論事情, 我所熟悉的海歸, 從人品上講基本不及方鴻漸、趙辛楣. 多數屬於高松年、韓學厚之流.  :(
回復 oneweek 2010-4-12 08:10
jimx98: 一個社會如果老出這樣的論調(講貢獻比犧牲), 這個社會有什麼地方不對勁. 堂堂正正地做人就是對社會最好的貢獻.

對社會不良現象講幾句話, 必須先數數有多少貢獻
俺在練習辯論技術, 練好了, 每貼50分, 一天發他個1000貼。就是500塊錢
回復 snortbsd 2010-4-12 08:42
jimx98: 這種語調似曾相識. 而且改頭換面, 用上了洋文. 建議您到黨校再學兩年, 提高提高水平, 學會怎麼夾著尾巴講這種話.

聽人家講話, 動不動給人貼上動機、立場等標籤
guess you have been well trained by 黨校 here....
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 08:57
oneweek: 俺在練習辯論技術, 練好了, 每貼50分, 一天發他個1000貼。就是500塊錢
Well, you should have a long way to go.
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 08:57
snortbsd: guess you have been well trained by 黨校 here....
I worked for the chinese government many years ago and know very well from the inside what the system is. If you want to start a fighting, I can tell you, I was well trained.

However, my writing above was not that trained style. I was trying to convenience you, to be an honest person is the happiest thing in the world. It's a gift not many people can see it or appreciate it.
回復 snortbsd 2010-4-12 09:08
jimx98: I worked for the chinese government many years ago and know very well from the inside what the system is. If you want to start a fighting, I can tell
wow, declaration of war? i am so sacred...
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 09:15
snortbsd: guess you have been well trained by 黨校 here....
At different degrees, we all accept different levels of western value. If you call it the "黨校 here", that's fine.

As a matter of fact, China in the past 100 years has been changed a lot, more than many people thought. Look at 100 years ago, try to understand how people think and act then and compare with today's china and how we think and act. We will be surprised by how much we chinese have been westernized.

Almost all the scientific & technological features we enjoy today are imported to China, small things from the clothing, eating, living and transportation to big things like, political party, constitution etc.

In other words we were all trained by the western at different degrees.  China needs the western in terms of technology, science, culture, political values etc. At the same time, chinese can also export some merits, such as, hard working, saving, focus on family etc.

Deep in my heart, I believe, most of us all love China -- the people, the culture and the land where we were raised.

The problem to me is the government. I don't like any government in this world. Of course, I don't like chinese government. In today's china, the system is so bad that the country can not be separated  from the party and the government.

Because of that, if you mark me as non-patriotism, that's fine. Actually I don't care. Because I believe, no matter how clearly I state my thinking, I don't believe you can get it.
回復 snortbsd 2010-4-12 09:30
jimx98: At different degrees, we all accept different levels of western value. If you call it the "黨校 here", that's fine.

As a matter of fact, C
i don't think that way.

china needs ccp for another 50 years or even 100 years. for me, simple and straight, ccp got people and country organized. yes under the banner of the party, but gradually it would be replaced by legal structure. that would take time and the culture of respecting laws will take time to be rooted in our culture...
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 09:39
縱觀中國的近代歷史, 中國從來就沒有缺少過高喊的愛國者. 中國更需要不同的聲音. 雖然有些聲音聽上去有些刺耳, 但是雜音中或許會有真知的吶喊. 兼聽則明嘛. 小平搞改革開放, 為什麼, 是因為中國的落後. 是科學、技術、政治和文化的全面落後. 中國人的改革是一個遠沒有完成的事業, 包括改造我們的心靈, 讓她們更開放和包容. 愛因斯坦說過, 一個人離開學校后, 忘記了老師教過的東西, 剩下的東西就是教育. 剩下的是什麼呢, 就是一個開放的心靈, 去接受新的思想、新的價值, 去接受主觀上不願意接受的東西.
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 09:48
snortbsd: i don't think that way.

china needs ccp for another 50 years or even 100 years. for me, simple and straight, ccp got people and country organized. y
According to your statement, you respect the western values and it will take time to implement them in chinese society.

Well, should we all have the right to push the government move forward?  

I believe, at the end, the people have the right to make the call. Unfortunately, in today's china, they don't have the right they should have.
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 09:54
snortbsd: i don't think that way.

china needs ccp for another 50 years or even 100 years. for me, simple and straight, ccp got people and country organized. y
袁世凱說, china needs 袁世凱 for another 50 years or even 100 years. for me, simple and straight, 袁世凱 got people and country organized.....

國民黨說, china needs 國民黨 for another 50 years or even 100 years. for me, simple and straight, 國民黨 got people and country organized.....

如今共產黨還是說, china needs 共產黨 for another 50 years or even 100 years. for me, simple and straight, 共產黨  got people and country organized.....

Ridiculous! 您以為天下的中國人都有一棵象您那樣的腦袋?
回復 snortbsd 2010-4-12 09:59
jimx98: According to your statement, you respect the western values and it will take time to implement them in chinese society.

Well, should we all have the
please, don't force your words into mine.

i never said implementing western values in chinese society.

what i meant is that ccp got people and the country organized. that is the best so far ccp ever did for china. that makes china a whole on this planet.

china and chinese government are moving forward, because the entity of china is a whole piece.

people is a big word, and your guys love to use that word. unfortunately most of chinese i know of, are not with you.

not a milli-second, i would entrust china into your guys' hands....
回復 snortbsd 2010-4-12 10:01
jimx98: 袁世凱說, china needs 袁世凱 for another 50 years or even 100 years. for me, simple and straight, 袁世凱 got people and country organized.....

國民黨
hahahaha, get lost...

over
回復 jimx98 2010-4-12 10:12
您的這套邏輯騙鬼去吧. 究竟是多少年 50年還是100年? 教您一個成語叫做隨心所欲.

就當回傻瓜信您的這套說法, 可是現實中 CCP 為什麼有那麼多踐踏法律的事情? 究竟是民眾的問題還是 CCP 的問題? 就說說腐敗的事情, 您說是民眾的問題還是執政黨的問題?

Again, you used the same 小伎倆: "not a milli-second, i would entrust china into your guys' hands...."

Our difference is
1. You don't trust me to take care of china. :)    (why? who cares about it?)
2. I don't trust the government.

You have some serious problem.
再次忠告您, 別輕易給別人貼標籤. 這不是什麼光彩的人品和行為.
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