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標題: 中國網民號召抵製法國商品法國媒體回應 [列印本頁]

作者: WWPPHHZZ 時間: 2008-4-15 10:31
標題: 中國網民號召抵製法國商品法國媒體回應
（綜合訊）針對北京奧運聖火在巴黎的遭遇和西方媒體對中國的嘲諷，中國境內外一些華人網民發起一場抵製法國貨的行動。這些行動和號召很快引起了法國的注意。

　　法國《費加羅報》和法新社聯合報道了中國論壇上發起的抵制去法國旅遊、抵製法國貨和在法國企業工作的號召，並特別寫到一些中國留學生作為反擊提出的「支持科西嘉島獨立」建議。

　　文章隨後引用了法國新中間派黨議員拉加德的回應：「要是8月前西藏問題沒有進展的話，最有效的方法將是法國公民和消費者對中國產品進行抵制。」他還說：「他們說我們害怕中國的經濟制裁，但中國對我們的依賴才更大。」這一報道在當日的法國主要電視台新聞節目中反覆出現。

　　但一些法國專家學者在聖火巴黎傳遞后對中國及華人世界的反應憂心忡忡。法國政治地理和中國研究學者皮埃爾·畢卡爾博士及中國經濟專家讓 -保羅·唐等參加法國5台的談話節目，指出法國在這次事件中的表現極大地傷害了中國民眾的感情，雖然中國政府仍然在儘力平息人民可能產生的反法情緒，但對中法關係已經不可避免地造成了損害。

《聯合早報網》
（編輯：楊麗娟）

作者: 涼泉居士 時間: 2008-4-15 15:29
中法商業抵制全面開戰，和諧社會大有希望了。。。

作者: 鄉下人進城 時間: 2008-4-15 15:50
好啊！看誰離不開誰！沒什麼不和諧的。

作者: 我容易嗎我 時間: 2008-4-15 16:03

原帖由 鄉下人進城 於 2008-4-15 15:50 發表
好啊！看誰離不開誰！沒什麼不和諧的。

作者: 鄉下人進城 時間: 2008-4-15 16:07
標題: 回復 #2 涼泉居士的帖子
有一廂情願的和諧嗎？

作者: laona 時間: 2008-4-15 16:11

作者: garbageCNN 時間: 2008-4-15 16:29
觀望中，兩邊官方政府都沒有發言，現在明顯是法國處於劣勢。

中方：網友自發（包括任何人士， etc 愛國的，愛黨的，憤青，成員(一部分)，運運(一部分)等等）
法方：議員，還有一群SB無疆界記者豬頭（說白了就是美國的狗）

一邊是廣大人民群眾，另外一邊是什麼就不用說明了吧

作者: 涼泉居士 時間: 2008-4-15 16:52

原帖由 鄉下人進城 於 2008-4-15 01:07 發表
有一廂情願的和諧嗎？

您是說一黨專政，還是國際霸權？

作者: garbageCNN 時間: 2008-4-15 16:54

原帖由 涼泉居士 於 2008-4-15 16:52 發表

您是說一黨專政，還是國際霸權？

一黨專政不等於國際霸權

國際霸權不等於一黨專政

國際霸權等於米國(民主國家)

作者: 涼泉居士 時間: 2008-4-15 17:41

原帖由 garbageCNN 於 2008-4-15 01:54 發表

一黨專政不等於國際霸權

國際霸權不等於一黨專政

國際霸權等於米國(民主國家)

居士就是問個簡單的問題，看把您給急得。。。碰到愚鈍的人，您得耐心點兒。。。

作者: garbageCNN 時間: 2008-4-15 17:43

原帖由 涼泉居士 於 2008-4-15 17:41 發表

居士就是問個簡單的問題，看把您給急得。。。碰到愚鈍的人，您得耐心點兒。。。

您哪裡是愚鈍啊，您是大智若愚啊，這裡的地球人都知道

作者: 涼泉居士 時間: 2008-4-15 17:48

原帖由 garbageCNN 於 2008-4-15 02:43 發表

您哪裡是愚鈍啊，您是大智若愚啊，這裡的地球人都知道

是嗎，鬧出那麼大動靜了？

作者: garbageCNN 時間: 2008-4-15 17:50

原帖由 涼泉居士 於 2008-4-15 17:48 發表

是嗎，鬧出那麼大動靜了？

您再這麼"大智若愚"下去，火星人都知道了

作者: 涼泉居士 時間: 2008-4-15 18:40

原帖由 garbageCNN 於 2008-4-15 02:50 發表

您再這麼"大智若愚"下去，火星人都知道了

哦，您很喜歡挖苦人，是吧？沒事兒的，居士不光愚鈍，而且臉皮厚的很。。。

作者: 鄉下人進城 時間: 2008-4-15 19:18

原帖由 涼泉居士 於 2008-4-15 16:52 發表

您是說一黨專政，還是國際霸權？

看看您在第2樓所說，您認為我在說什麼呢？

作者: z307h 時間: 2008-4-15 20:05
法國只能賣屁眼水.對法國的東西堅決不能買!

作者: 他行車 時間: 2008-4-15 20:16
剛才跟國內聯繫, 說是家樂福現在已經是冷清清的了, 大做廣告降價, 連降價廣告都沒人拿. 商場門口都是穿著紅衣的在勸人抵制.

有人證實嗎?

作者: 長橋翁 時間: 2008-4-15 21:26
不喝法國酒，不用法國化妝品，斷了法國咂吸中國血液的針管！從我做起，從現在做起。

作者: flyinghorse73 時間: 2008-4-15 23:23
盲目抵製法國產品也不好，想想看，中國很多企業是以出口為導向的外向型企業，中國產品出口到世界各地，如果外國人抵制中國產品怎麼辦？中國有些產品在西方人眼裡的口碑本來就一直不好，如果再加以抵制，恐怕中國產品會失去很多市場，造成國內工廠倒閉，工人失業，對國內經濟也會造成衝擊。盲目抵制只能兩敗俱傷。還是想想從政府層面，如外交手段解決問題。如果你真地想有所行動，那就盡量不買外國貨，盡量買國產的替代產品。還有就是認真把自己的工作，學習做好，為提升中國的科技競爭力貢獻一點力量。我現在身在國外，盡量多學人家先進的東西，以後會回國把自己所學傳授給青年學生，也算是為祖國繁榮富強做點事情。

作者: c.melody 時間: 2008-4-16 00:54
樓上的，不用擔心他們會抵制我們

第一，他們根本沒錢買貴的東西，全民消費水平下降，收入水平下降，導致只能買便宜東西

第二，就算他們抵制，也沒事兒，他們最大的市場是我們，我們最大的市場可不是他們，就算他們全民抵制，也傷不到筋骨。可是如果我們全民抵制，看他們能撐幾天

作者: DaHL 時間: 2008-4-16 01:32
不管怎麼說來而不往非禮也, 雖然這些是山姆在中歐之間使的絆子, 但無論如何也要讓他們長點記性.

作者: yunsousifang 時間: 2008-4-16 02:35
標題: 回復 #22 DaHL 的帖子
講的好有道理，一針扎在了痛處。

作者: mengjz 時間: 2008-4-16 03:04

原帖由 WWPPHHZZ 於 2008-4-15 10:31 發表
（綜合訊）針對北京奧運聖火在巴黎的遭遇和西方媒體對中國的嘲諷，中國境內外一些華人網民發起一場抵製法國貨的行動。這些行動和號召很快引起了法國的注意。

　　法國《費加羅報》和法新社聯合報道了中國論壇 ...

I have been in France for six years! Still is in this damn Country! Honestly, most "made in China" products are for big international companies, like HP or Polaroid et al, plus some very small things like umbrella or pens! I will give analysis on what impacts "made in China" have on the ordinary French people. In reality, "Buying made in China"  helps the French save money! "Selling to China" helps the French make money!

"Made in China" really means money for value, or super value for the French! One umbrella costs 5 EURO if made in China, but costs 20-30 EURO if made in France or most other European Countries! But the quality, honestly, is the same, or at least very close! How much the French save when buying an umbrella "made in China", 75%! The saved 15 to 25 EURO is one week food expense for one French! Of course, the French can import those products from other under-developed countries, like India, Vietnam or Tunisia. But, history has proved that those countries simply can not manufacture the same good products at the same price as made in China (see WAL-MART)!

Most "Made in China"  are for French or American companies! Under the name of CARREFOUR, HP or POLAROID!, who make the most money from "made in China"? The French and the Americans et al Western Companies, and not the Chinese people or companies! If being boycotted, who are going to lose the most money? The French or Americans et Westerners! Not the Chinese people or companies, we are exploited!

As for "Made in France", Products like "Nuclear Reactors", "High Speed Train" and "Airbus Aeroplanes"  going to be sold in China on that 20 billion EURO contract are purely French products! They all have better competitors in the market!

U.S. produce better "Nuclear Reactors" (3rd generation U.S. vs 2nd generations French), at lower prices! with the continuous depreciation of US dollar, the American Nuclear Reactors are becoming even cheaper! it is better for us to switch from the damn French's  to  the American's !

Japan produces much better  "High Speed Train"  technologically also at much lower price! Plus Japanese designs are much better fit for the Chinese people! We don't need French on that! Japan can help China on "High Speed Train"!

Boeing manufactures as good aeroplanes as AIRBUS, but at much cheaper price with the down US dollar (1 Dollar =  7 Yuan, but 1EURO = 11 Yuan). So, if the French are not happy, OK, we are going to go Boeing (I don't think that China has ordered any A380)

So, you all can see, the "Buying made in China" helps the French, and "Selling to China" also helps the French! If Boycott, who is going to lose? Both ways, the damn French are going to be the loser!

As for China, of course, some companies are going to lose, those companies producing umbrellas or shoes, but most other countries are going to do better, those joint ventures or operational companies on "Nuclear Reactos", "High Speed Train" and even "Airliners" are definitely going to benefit for not going French. Those companies are going to lose in China are those low technology companies, little or no added values! But those to gain are high technology companies, China should have a strategic emphasis on them anyway!

So, in relaity, if China is going to BOYCOTT the French, the loser is French, and if the French is going to BOYCOTT China, the loser is also French!

Either way boycott, China is the winner! We boycott, the French lose, the French boycott, the French lose!

Let the BOYCOTTING Game starts, the stupid French will learn this leasson the hard way!

Am I right on analysing this scenario?

[ 本帖最後由 mengjz 於 2008-4-16 04:42 編輯 ]

作者: SecondEdition 時間: 2008-4-16 03:29
我想英法德認為如果不買中國貨的話，他們可以到印度菲律賓這些地方買了。他們認為中國製造是可替代的，但是他們賣給中國的貨物是中國難以找到替代品的。
所以，如果美國和他們站在一塊兒的話，我們會有困難。但是如果美國不和他們配合的話，我們就會從美國買到同樣的東西，這樣，英德法就會遇到大麻煩了。

作者: peijie 時間: 2008-4-16 03:34
法國政客與媒體對待中國的態度，必然產生的後果。
兩國有不同的價值觀，但不能把自己的價值觀強加給別人。

作者: mengjz 時間: 2008-4-16 03:45
標題: 回復 #25 SecondEdition 的帖子
Too naive! All those products the French are going to sell to us, all western Countries are competitng fiercely in the international market!

Any really leading-edge Tecchnology they will never sell to us anyway! Like Weapon Embargo, every time , when China acquires one technology, they are freeing one, but makes no money, that's why the damn French is anxious to end the arms embargo, not for us, but for them (we Chinese are the most intelligent people in the world, we are going to produce those tehcnologies with time)!

Honestly, real leading-edge technology like: ASTRONAUTS going ito space, SATTTELITE, ROCKETS and advance MILITARY technologies are all Chinese self-reliant technologies! No body has helped and will help China, not to say the damn French! I have worked for French High tech company for 5 years! I know how they control those technologies! They have never and will never help China anyway!

The only country really helped China on tehcnology is Japan (although not very leading either, no any Europen or American Company has done that).

In reality, all the "Nuclear reactor", "High Speed Train" and "Airbus planes" are commercially available ones with strong competitions in international market! 20 billion EUOR contract, that 10% of French GDP, for every French, one in ten EURO is from China just for those contracts.

Don't be afraid! If you are really naive! My explanations should be good enough for you to understand!

But if you act as French Agent for whatever reason, I want you to simply shut up!

[ 本帖最後由 mengjz 於 2008-4-16 03:52 編輯 ]

作者: mengjz 時間: 2008-4-16 04:08
標題: 回復 #1 WWPPHHZZ 的帖子
"文章隨後引用了法國新中間派黨議員拉加德的回應：「要是8月前西藏問題沒有進展的話，最有效的方法將是法國公民和消費者對中國產品進行抵制。」他還說：「他們說我們害怕中國的經濟制裁，但中國對我們的依賴才更大。」這一報道在當日的法國主要電視台新聞節目中反覆出現。"

Obviously, this SOB 拉加德 really doesn't know anything about the economical ties between China and France! China is No. 1 Market with our No.1 Popution and the fastest growing economy for all the world, of course including the damn French!

France has only 60 millions populations, and the PPP is much smaller because of the high basic expense in Europe (almost double expensive than in US), so they means nothing to Chinese products honestly! See my analysisi on #24.

French are stupid retarded people with IQ only 80. How can you trust this FRENCH WHITE TRASH, 拉加德.

Let all the French shut up, no agent for the French on this blog forum! OK

Let the BOYCOTTING begin!

作者: jennineo 時間: 2008-4-16 09:29
I still see Chinese ladies carrying LV bags. Possible to boycott French products/business ?

作者: jennineo 時間: 2008-4-16 09:36
One group of Chinese tourists flew into a shop in France. After an hour, the shop was US$300,000 richer.
Are you sure you can avoid Chinese people from boasting of their LV hand bags? Unless there is a
common value that using the French products is negative (or something worse).

If you think the reporter is making false report, proceed legal actions like Singapore Government does.
Really valuable to learn from Singapore.

作者: fsspider 時間: 2008-4-16 10:14
自稱居士的，還不如叫齟屎算了。

瞧瞧你的德行。

作者: davidon 時間: 2008-4-16 10:36
標題: 強烈支持！！

原帖由 mengjz 於 2008-4-16 03:04 發表

I have been in France for six years! Still is in this damn Country! Honestly, most "made in China" products are for big international companies, like HP or Polaroid et al, plus some ...

當一個無恥之徒給了你一個耳光的時候，你是否會猶豫該不該還手，可會擔心如果還手的話會被打死？？？？

中國不是懦夫民族，強烈支持全面抵製法國貨！！

強烈要求中國政府停止執行和法國流氓總統簽的訂單！！

作者: buweizhai 時間: 2008-4-16 12:06
在毛澤東主席等老一輩領導人的領導下，中國在以美國為首西方集團的圍堵下，取得了偉大的發展。

法國人的威脅只能是搬起石頭砸了自己的腳。

請各位注意：法國人的威脅是在和中國搞了文化年之後產生的，不是在奧運火炬到來前產生的。

這意味著什麼呢？

作者: 涼泉居士 時間: 2008-4-16 12:39

原帖由 fsspider 於 2008-4-15 19:14 發表
自稱居士的，還不如叫齟屎算了。
瞧瞧你的德行。

瞧你這點兒出息。。。

作者: mengjz 時間: 2008-4-16 19:18
標題: 回復 #31 jennineo 的帖子
You are right, some Chinese are not doing boycotting! They are selfish or not Patriotic!

It is better to creat a Culture that anything French is shameful! Make connections that the French are racist craps! They are really are (I would provide all the evidence I have collected), and the government should pose high importing tax on any French products to curb the consumption!

All in all, we have to destroy the French white trash! Only after that, they can learn how to behave like good dog!

Thank you for your concern, and suggestions! But do more work on exposing the animal faces of All the French and French companies are more important than only posting concerns!

作者: 我是兔子 時間: 2008-4-16 19:23
頂死薩科齊

作者: mengjz 時間: 2008-4-16 19:27
標題: 回復 #30 jennineo 的帖子
Who you really are? It is just the start, have you seen one of the most beautiful Chinese ladies carrying protesting banner just in front of BEIJING CARREFOUR? Most Chinese ladies are decent human beings, and they are patrioatic also!

Of course, you can still have few CRAPY Chinese women, they don't have conscience, like "secondedition", they are faceless! But they can not be called Chinese anymore! They are Chinese traitors!

Hope that your post only for concern of the possibility of boycotting, and not act as the damn French's agent!

It is definitely possible to boycott the damn French, when China creates a culture to associate all the French with dirty, ugly (actually, most French are really ugly) and uncivilized. We will make it happen.

Certain degree of concern is OK, please don't internationally confuse readers, and particully not acting on behave of the white trash French!!!

OK

[ 本帖最後由 mengjz 於 2008-4-16 19:30 編輯 ]

作者: wgj010 時間: 2008-4-16 23:21

原帖由 涼泉居士 於 2008-4-15 15:29 發表
中法商業抵制全面開戰，和諧社會大有希望了。。。

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